Sergeant Wilson Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 You should sit a citizenship test every 5 years. Holding will allow you to vote, breed, drive, have a dog, a mobile phone, allow you to travel on certain transport, leave the country, go to specific shops etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Compulsory voting cards and withdrawal of them if you fail the simplest poll station entry quiz where you have to match a party name to their (supposed) policies, or at least name the Prime Minister. If, like some, you think that Boris Johnson or John Major is PM then you should be nowhere near a polling booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Should women be allowed to vote on men's matters? Currently female MPs can vote on male issues such as economy and foreign policy. This doesn't sit right with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 7 hours ago, peasy23 said: We regularly get governments that the majority of the population didn't vote for, so to get a better turnout then imo it should be compulsory. The flip side of that is that if you don't want to vote for any of the candidates listed in your area then you should have the right to abstain. This would be my preference too. I've spoilt my ballot a few times over the years but would rather have a 'none of the above' which sends a better message that you're really not happy. Compulsory voting (which would probably be impossible to enforce) would hopefully make the parties try and keep more than just their core support happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 7 hours ago, peasy23 said: Voting should be compulsory imo, but the ballot paper should have a "none of the above" option. I might go for that - if you're going to make it compulsory, you need a "F*** the lot of you" option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Political activists shouldn't be allowed to vote. They should be restricted to campaigning to persuade the lethargic how to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Ah, another thread calling for schoolchildren to get the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I say that we let Germany annex the UK and line the streets to welcome them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 16 year olds should be allowed to vote because it pisses off middle-aged/old c***s. When you get to pension age you collect your state pension and give up your right to vote. Too many old wankers in this country to be dictating the futures of others. If you made voting compulsory by law you'd probably see two things happen: 1. more cocks would be drawn on ballot papers than before and 2. the revenue raised from fines of people who never bothered their arse would probably quite substantial. I don't particularly care if it's compulsory or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 All Power to the Soviets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: Compulsory voting cards and withdrawal of them if you fail the simplest poll station entry quiz where you have to match a party name to their (supposed) policies, or at least name the Prime Minister. If, like some, you think that Boris Johnson or John Major is PM then you should be nowhere near a polling booth. I don't agree that it should be compulsory but I do agree with the quiz. I would attach a short multiple choice quiz to the ballot paper. This is marked during the count and your vote is weighted by your score. In the interests of fairness each candidate can suggest a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 If democracy isn’t working, the dapper dressed Mugabe has just become available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Mussolini made public transport run on time which is more than anyone ever elected in the UK has ever managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Mussolini made public transport run on time which is more than anyone ever elected in the UK has ever managed. Contrary to popular belief one thing the fascist powers were terrible at were logistics, same with the Soviets. When it came to getting men and material where it needed to go, when it needed to go and in big enough quantities the western democracies were miles ahead of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 hours ago, The Moonster said: 16 year olds should be allowed to vote because it pisses off middle-aged/old c***s. When you get to pension age you collect your state pension and give up your right to vote. Too many old wankers in this country to be dictating the futures of others. If you made voting compulsory by law you'd probably see two things happen: 1. more cocks would be drawn on ballot papers than before and 2. the revenue raised from fines of people who never bothered their arse would probably quite substantial. I don't particularly care if it's compulsory or not. 16 year olds should be allowed to vote, if only because of the taxation/representation argument. If you can contribute to the nation's finances and security - you should get a say in how it's run. Granted, at 16 your opinions may be slightly gauche, simplistic and self interested but that's exactly the kind of attributes I associate with the "Grey vote" - as a general theme, anyway. I disagree with compulsory voting, however. Beyond the lack of a "none of the above" option the ability to opt out completely and not give a f**k is the grandest of all democratic traditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 The strongest argument against younger people voting is not a lack of knowledge, experience or temperament; it’s the risk of undue influence from their elders on how they exercise the vote. The problem with this argument, however, is still that this influence is pervasive and massive well beyond any age threshold and its logical conclusion is a near universal disenfranchisement. So let’s reform the political system. One vote per degree at 2:1 Honours level or higher at a Russell Group University. Then elect the House of Lords where the eligibility to sit or vote is a postgraduate qualification. Philosopher Kings of our time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 26 minutes ago, renton said: 16 year olds should be allowed to vote, if only because of the taxation/representation argument. If you can contribute to the nation's finances and security - you should get a say in how it's run. Granted, at 16 your opinions may be slightly gauche, simplistic and self interested but that's exactly the kind of attributes I associate with the "Grey vote" - as a general theme, anyway. I disagree with compulsory voting, however. Beyond the lack of a "none of the above" option the ability to opt out completely and not give a f**k is the grandest of all democratic traditions. I agree with 16 year olds voting but the taxation/representation argument extends to those younger than 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 42 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: The strongest argument against younger people voting is not a lack of knowledge, experience or temperament; it’s the risk of undue influence from their elders on how they exercise the vote. The problem with this argument, however, is still that this influence is pervasive and massive well beyond any age threshold and its logical conclusion is a near universal disenfranchisement. So let’s reform the political system. One vote per degree at 2:1 Honours level or higher at a Russell Group University. Then elect the House of Lords where the eligibility to sit or vote is a postgraduate qualification. Philosopher Kings of our time. Especially when the Tories go around retirement homes with buses, loading up barely cognizant fogies to dump at the voting booths. Does it have to be the Russell group? Otherwise I'd have three votes and a seat in the Lords..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 He's taking over from McInnes at Pittodrie, m8. Hands off. I’ll need to start going to Aberdeen games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Ad Lib said: The strongest argument against younger people voting is not a lack of knowledge, experience or temperament; it’s the risk of undue influence from their elders on how they exercise the vote. The problem with this argument, however, is still that this influence is pervasive and massive well beyond any age threshold and its logical conclusion is a near universal disenfranchisement. So let’s reform the political system. One vote per degree at 2:1 Honours level or higher at a Russell Group University. Then elect the House of Lords where the eligibility to sit or vote is a postgraduate qualification. Philosopher Kings of our time. An actual Elective Monarchy drawn from PhD holders in the Arts as well. King Richard I of Scotland and House Finlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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