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Whenever I hear adults talk about how great it is when the young are involved or how it's a good idea to lower the voting age I wonder it's because they can't remember the stupid things they believed as a youngster, or it's because they are too shameless to be embarrassed about their beliefs as a youngster, or it's because they are too immature to have reevaluated their beliefs based on life experience. There's also the problem of engagement.

Likewise, old fogeys are potentially so out of touch that they shouldn't be let near the voting booth such that they can affect the lives of those with half or most of their lives still ahead of them.

Should voting be mandatory by law for those of voting age, building engagement and responsibility?

 

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1 minute ago, Ad Lib said:

Voting shouldn't be based on age. It should be based on whether you hold a 2:1 or better degree from a Russell Group University.

Even Ad Lib trying the funnies.   

The two-fold rise in 1st class degs from our universities from the last decade, is it the dumbing down from the SG or a rise in attainment?  

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What's your rationale behind that?


We regularly get governments that the majority of the population didn't vote for, so to get a better turnout then imo it should be compulsory. The flip side of that is that if you don't want to vote for any of the candidates listed in your area then you should have the right to abstain.
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3 minutes ago, Cerberus said:

Old people shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 They need to be isolated and studied so it can be determined what nutrients they have that might be extracted for our personal use.

 

Not a fan of the Juniors then?

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3 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

We regularly get governments that the majority of the population didn't vote for, so to get a better turnout then imo it should be compulsory. The flip side of that is that if you don't want to vote for any of the candidates listed in your area then you should have the right to abstain.

 

So for you the focus there is increasing the legitimacy of the government who wins power? Understandable.

Could counter that this is a false legitimacy as folk are being forced into the ballot box (bit naughty in a supposed free society). Does the argument not fall down when the turnout isn't 80%, but 95% with say 12% of those none of the aboves? Any idea what the stats look like in say Australia?

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22 minutes ago, banana said:

So for you the focus there is increasing the legitimacy of the government who wins power? Understandable.

Could counter that this is a false legitimacy as folk are being forced into the ballot box (bit naughty in a supposed free society). Does the argument not fall down when the turnout isn't 80%, but 95% with say 12% of those none of the aboves? Any idea what the stats look like in say Australia?

About 10% of eligible voters don't register. Turnout is usually around 95% of eligible voters. Of that about 5% spoil their ballot. We don't have a "none of the above option" and use a preferential voting system so in the end, if you cast a vote you have to rate one of the major parties above the other.

 

 

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So for you the focus there is increasing the legitimacy of the government who wins power? Understandable.
Could counter that this is a false legitimacy as folk are being forced into the ballot box (bit naughty in a supposed free society). Does the argument not fall down when the turnout isn't 80%, but 95% with say 12% of those none of the aboves? Any idea what the stats look like in say Australia?


Yep, at present we have as many as 2/3rds of the electorate who don't bother their arse voting. That has to change imo.
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