Silvio Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Howlin' Wilf said: And here is the goal (no more gifs ed) Craig Samson is so slow getting down to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 As a St Mirren fan you always knew what you were getting when Samson returned. He's not a better keeper than when he left us before, but then he's not worse. Pretty much as we remember, a decent enough shot stopper at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 We got what we deserved yesterday we were poor all over the pitch . Well done Dumbarton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Silvio said: Craig Samson is so slow getting down to that. I don't think you can blame Samson. It's not far out and it's placed right in the corner. Good finish rather than bad goalkeeping IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Stelios sending off was utterly stupid and he deserved to go. Jack got it all wrong yesterday with the way he set the team up. Fair play to Aitken who once again got his game plan spot on. We were absolutely rotten from start to finish but take nothing away from the sons who thouroughly deserved to win. Tom Walsh was excellent as was Hutton who rarely wasted a ball during the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demented Zebra Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Well done Dumbarton have wrote it before you are having a fantastic time of it with some great results. Very painful for me we seem to take a dip in form every so often maybe we put too much into the Livie game I don't know it's an interesting season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 6 hours ago, Sonsteam of 08 said: Is 'Buddhist Monk' suggesting that red cards should only be given if there is intent? No, that is you saying I am saying that. I am, on the other hand, saying that intent is part of the equation. Something I don't think anyone would disagree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hudson Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 No, that is you saying I am saying that. I am, on the other hand, saying that intent is part of the equation. Something I don't think anyone would disagree with. Intent has got absolutely nothing to do with it according to current FIFA rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rock Hudson said: Intent has got absolutely nothing to do with it according to current FIFA rules. I've already covered this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hudson Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I've already covered this. Incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rock Hudson said: Incorrectly. In your opinion. I'm not really sure what your "end game" is here. I've not been critical of the referee or his decision, nor of Dumbarton's win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsanorak Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I don't think you can blame Samson. It's not far out and it's placed right in the corner. Good finish rather than bad goalkeeping IMO. From where I was sat I thought Samson couldnt see the ball for the defender. It certainly wasnt in the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Buddist Monk said: In your opinion. I'm not really sure what your "end game" is here. I've not been critical of the referee or his decision, nor of Dumbarton's win. 6 hours ago, Rock Hudson said: This is a direct quote from the current FIFA Laws of the Game book. “Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off”, no mention of intent there. Hopefully this clears up your argument Buddhist Monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsanorak Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Here' s the goal to gerry rafferty of all people....Was about a yard from the post I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, sonsanorak said: From where I was sat I thought Samson couldnt see the ball for the defender. It certainly wasnt in the corner. You’d have had a better view than me or the camera. If it was anything less than perfectly placed then yeah, Samson should take the blame as it wasn’t exactly hit with a lot of pace. Edited after seeing the behind the goal view you just posted :-). Yeah, it looks like he moves slightly to his right before Walsh hits it to his left. Not a howler, but he probably would have expected to save it if he hadn’t guessed incorrectly just before the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Buddist Monk still not grasping that intent has nothing to do with a red card for a forceful elbow to the face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumbartonTheSons Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Buddist Monk continuing to have a shocker here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Look at the apathy amongst the St Mirren support. They know the only way is down from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Deliberate or not it's a red card. The ball was about ten feet away by the time of the collisiion. Therefore I'd contend that it's clumsy at best, deliberate at worst. Probably deliberate. Definitely a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel wickson Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 If you watch the footage of the sending off again, notice how Stelios makes a quarter turn when he's about a yard away from Wardrop and then leads with his elbow. He's got absolutely no intention of heading that ball. The referee is also perfectly positioned to make a judgement on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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