djchapsticks Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 5 hours ago, flyingscot said: The away fans? Really? I never heard a peep from them in W5 I was in W4 and couldn't hear a thing from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 32 minutes ago, hoobahabba said: To me it's very unclear what the penalty was given for, despite the apparent certainty from the commentary team. It's a soft one. Would need a slow mo replay to spot the infringement. Your defender is quite clever. As Baird moves towards the goal, your defender turns to move in the opposite direction and as he passes Baird he sticks out an arm/elbow which catches/pushes Baird. Whether it was enough to go to go to ground was debatable. However, having seen one awarded against us for a similar challenge, the maybe JR has told our defenders to take full advantage of such situations. Some refs might have missed it or ignored it, which makes it a fortunate, but not unbelievable award IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: I was in W4 and couldn't hear a thing from them. Ironic that someone who spent so long complaining about the sound from the tannoy, suddenly develops super hearing abilities that picks up away fans singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 20 minutes ago, hoobahabba said: To me it's very unclear what the penalty was given for, despite the apparent certainty from the commentary team. It's a soft one. Would need a slow mo replay to spot the infringement. You could also say the same for the disallowed goal. The keeper has nothing impeding him from catching it and just punched it into his own net. I thought at the time that it was weak and an example of over-protection on keepers who flap at those sort of balls and the replay does nothing to change that opinion. In fact, Alexander looked very suspect all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, FTOF said: Ironic that someone who spent so long complaining about the sound from the tannoy, suddenly develops super hearing abilities that picks up away fans singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Also from the co-commentator at our equaliser: 'Morgan, takes it into the box on his left-hand foot' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobahabba Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 You could also say the same for the disallowed goal. The keeper has nothing impeding him from catching it and just punched it into his own net. I thought at the time that it was weak and an example of over-protection on keepers who flap at those sort of balls and the replay does nothing to change that opinion. In fact, Alexander looked very suspect all night. Fair one. I thought at the time that Alexander was fouled but it's also unclear from the highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Buddievision with commentary from Chucklevision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tam the bud Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Not from W1 they weren't. I heard the distant drum but that's all. The Livi fans were very loud and it seemed like their home match for a while. I think our W7 lads would be better in the South Stand where the acoustics might be better. Every away support drowns out W7. Just an observation. How would you know what W1 can hear since you sit in the south stand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Missed the game but going by the highlights we were carved open a few times by St Mirren and beaten by the better side. Gallagher looked like he struggled against Morgan who seems a fantastic player. Great striker's instinct by Carrick to grab our goal...he has his detractors but like Mackin looks worth a goal or two. Their first goal looks like Alexander could have done better but possibly was unsighted. The second looks like an own goal where it's cleared off the line but hit Alexander and goes in. As for the penalty...I've watched it over and over again and tried to figure out where the foul is...I still can't see one. Anyway games over, move on and get the heads up for the weekend...a good result against Falkirk and last night will be forgotten about in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumbartonBud Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, FTOF said: Your defender is quite clever. As Baird moves towards the goal, your defender turns to move in the opposite direction and as he passes Baird he sticks out an arm/elbow which catches/pushes Baird. Whether it was enough to go to go to ground was debatable. However, having seen one awarded against us for a similar challenge, the maybe JR has told our defenders to take full advantage of such situations. Some refs might have missed it or ignored it, which makes it a fortunate, but not unbelievable award IMO. I was in the south stand and it was quite clear that the Livi defender barged Baird, he was running in a straight line towards where I was sitting and a push/ shoulder barge moved Baird a good yard or so off the line he was running. The camera angle doesn’t really catch it properly. No doubt it was a pen but something similar happens at almost every corner kick, some are given some aren’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 55 minutes ago, DumbartonBud said: I was in the south stand and it was quite clear that the Livi defender barged Baird, he was running in a straight line towards where I was sitting and a push/ shoulder barge moved Baird a good yard or so off the line he was running. The camera angle doesn’t really catch it properly. No doubt it was a pen but something similar happens at almost every corner kick, some are given some aren’t. I think what helped the ref give this was that just before the corner was taken McGinn's run was blocked twice, and he made the ref aware of it. Again, bit like what happened to us against Morton. What the highlights also show is just how soft the foul was on Alexander (didn't actually see one) and how soft the foul was for the freekick that led to Livvy's goal. Ref clearly didn't have a good game last night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Just watched footage from behind the goal on the official site. Defender quite clearly pushes Baird in the back, right in line with the ref's view. The ref's positioning actually made it a very easy decision to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 19 hours ago, Bobby_F said: I think what helped the ref give this was that just before the corner was taken McGinn's run was blocked twice, and he made the ref aware of it. Again, bit like what happened to us against Morton. What the highlights also show is just how soft the foul was on Alexander (didn't actually see one) and how soft the foul was for the freekick that led to Livvy's goal. Ref clearly didn't have a good game last night! Softer than the challenge made by the Livi player on our guy 2 seconds earlier!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 days later and you lot are still raging, ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 4 hours ago, btb said: Softer than the challenge made by the Livi player on our guy 2 seconds earlier!!!!!!!!! Both very similar. One given one not. Ref seemed very pro-Livvy in the first half of the game; but if he had been he could easily have avoided giving Saints the penalty - as indeed could every ref for every penalty given as a corner gets thrown in. So no bias, just had a poor game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 3 hours ago, LiviLion said: 2 days later and you lot are still raging, ffs We're just too scared to start thinking about Dumbarton yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I didn't realise Eckersley's cross that hit the post, also hit the post again when it came back off the Livi defender! We really should have been level before HT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 On 29/11/2017 at 21:22, tam the bud said: How would you know what W1 can hear since you sit in the south stand ? Been in W1 since August. The wean now happy to let rip with the sweary words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tam the bud Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Been in W1 since August. The wean now happy to let rip with the sweary words. That must make the fans in the South Stand very happy [emoji106] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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