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5 hours ago, Wee Bully said:

I think there are so many things being conflated here, it starts to remove the focus from the actual foul play.  We have rapes at one end, abuse of position, and at the other, completely consensual acts and perhaps clumsy approaches where "no" meant "no", and was taken to mean "no".

Just been arguing this with someone myself.

So far today the 3 MPs "outed" are Damian Green - accused of touching someone's leg "so briefly it could be deniable" (he denies it), 1yr on asked her out to a drink (which they did regularly it seems) after she appeared in lingerie in The Times... Dominic Raab - accused of taking an injunction, in reality fought and importantly won a libel case... Rory Stewart - accused of harassments, but the apparent victim says she knows nothing about it and he was "always a completely professional and excellent employer".

Reproduction of the list in today's paper also includes affairs, consensual relationships with staff, "has odd sexual penchant", and the heinous crime of "dates his researcher". "Fornicates with male researchers" sounds like something from Edwardian times.

If it continues as largely a stream of titillating gossip and even falsehoods - then it surely risks obscuring or discouraging allegations about serious criminal offences or inappropriate conduct.

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2 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Just been arguing this with someone myself.

So far today the 3 MPs "outed" are Damian Green - accused of touching someone's leg "so briefly it could be deniable" (he denies it), 1yr on asked her out to a drink (which they did regularly it seems) after she appeared in lingerie in The Times... Dominic Raab - accused of taking an injunction, in reality fought and importantly won a libel case... Rory Stewart - accused of harassments, but the apparent victim says she knows nothing about it and he was "always a completely professional and excellent employer".

Reproduction of the list in today's paper also includes affairs, consensual relationships with staff, "has odd sexual penchant", and the heinous crime of "dates his researcher". "Fornicates with male researchers" sounds like something from Edwardian times.

If it continues as largely a stream of titillating gossip and even falsehoods - then it surely risks obscuring or discouraging allegations about serious criminal offences or inappropriate conduct.

Reminds me of how Facebook was started with a juvenile "hot or not" thing.

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I'm amazed an apparent list created by Tories could be described as "something from Edwardian times". Surely that's a mistake?

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Just been arguing this with someone myself.

So far today the 3 MPs "outed" are Damian Green - accused of touching someone's leg "so briefly it could be deniable" (he denies it), 1yr on asked her out to a drink (which they did regularly it seems) after she appeared in lingerie in The Times... Dominic Raab - accused of taking an injunction, in reality fought and importantly won a libel case... Rory Stewart - accused of harassments, but the apparent victim says she knows nothing about it and he was "always a completely professional and excellent employer".

Reproduction of the list in today's paper also includes affairs, consensual relationships with staff, "has odd sexual penchant", and the heinous crime of "dates his researcher". "Fornicates with male researchers" sounds like something from Edwardian times.

If it continues as largely a stream of titillating gossip and even falsehoods - then it surely risks obscuring or discouraging allegations about serious criminal offences or inappropriate conduct.


Nothing to see here, but big Damien has "put it in the hands of his solicitor".

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2 minutes ago, bob the tank said:

 


Nothing to see here, but big Damien has "put it in the hands of his solicitor".

 

Not for the first time, I'll wager.

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20 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Reminds me of how Facebook was started with a juvenile "hot or not" thing.

Still gutted you were a not?

Let it go.

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9 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

That's Fallon away.

#rip #flyingwiththesexpests

 

Has to be more to it than trying it on with Julia Hartley-Brewer. Why though?

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You don't resign for touching someone's knee. There must be more to this. Interesting he just resigns from his front bench post, and nowt more than that. 

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Just now, Big Fifer said:

You don't resign for touching someone's knee. There must be more to this. Interesting he just resigns from his front bench post, and nowt more than that. 

More chance of getting away with a fumble on the back benches, too many cameras up the front ones.

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So he has resigned saying "its not the behaviour of someone leading the armed forces"staying on as an mp so touch all the knees you want lads.Also keep on being touchy feely knights of the realm

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Presumably this isn't all over the Julia Hartley-Brewer incident? Would seem odd otherwise as whilst he shouldn't have done what he did, he was told to back off, did so and no complaint was ever made. 

Must be more to it. 

 

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27 minutes ago, Big Fifer said:

You don't resign for touching someone's knee. There must be more to this. Interesting he just resigns from his front bench post, and nowt more than that. 

 

Just now, Michael W said:

Presumably this isn't all over the Julia Hartley-Brewer incident? Would seem odd otherwise as whilst he shouldn't have done what he did, he was told to back off, did so and no complaint was ever made. 

Must be more to it. 

 

Couldnt guarantee that there were "no more" brewers seemingly

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Bye Mickey, bye.

Presrntly on TV failing to answer questions and getting an easy time from Kunsberg.  Big surprise there.

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34 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

So he has resigned saying "its not the behaviour of someone leading the armed forces"staying on as an mp so touch all the knees you want lads.Also keep on being touchy feely knights of the realm

Thought the army thing was drinking each others pish. Probably embarrassed it was only knee touching.

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all a bit FU / Tim Stamper in the Whips' Office, that list. Who leaked it and for what purpose?

coupled with the fiasco over the Brexit papers that the govt is currently refusing to release and being at risk of being in contempt of parliament, I can't see it being too long before this house of cards falls apart.

has there ever been a more odious shower in charge of the UK?

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