houston_bud Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 The revisionism of Lavety wasting his career by taking drugs. He was 18/19 when that happened, and got his move to the Premier League after that.Lavety retired aged 30, Loy is 29. Feel free compare their records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, houston_bud said: The revisionism of Lavety wasting his career by taking drugs. He was 18/19 when that happened, and got his move to the Premier League after that. Lavety retired aged 30, Loy is 29. Feel free compare their records. Loy got to play for Falkirk. Your go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenElves Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Best pub in Falkirk to go to pre-match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 26 minutes ago, houston_bud said: The revisionism of Lavety wasting his career by taking drugs. He was 18/19 when that happened, and got his move to the Premier League after that. Lavety retired aged 30, Loy is 29. Feel free compare their records. The roundabout incident where he was bare chested waving a belt and shouting at anyone suggests it wasnt just an 18/19 yr old incident. Loy has never been played as a striker for a large spell of his career and still is only 20 goals or so behind Lavety as far as the goals are concerned and correct me if I am wrong, many of fellow St Mirren fans suggested that Loy was a major part that kept your lot from a trip to the seaside leagues. The pair of them have pretty similar careers inside football, considered not good enough for the top league but done jobs lower down, then there is their worlds outside football, in Lavety's case will never go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 The roundabout incident where he was bare chested waving a belt and shouting at anyone suggests it wasnt just an 18/19 yr old incident. Loy has never been played as a striker for a large spell of his career and still is only 20 goals or so behind Lavety as far as the goals are concerned and correct me if I am wrong, many of fellow St Mirren fans suggested that Loy was a major part that kept your lot from a trip to the seaside leagues. The pair of them have pretty similar careers inside football, considered not good enough for the top league but done jobs lower down, then there is their worlds outside football, in Lavety's case will never go away Pretty sure that happened after he retired. It was in Houston, not far from where I grew up. I'm not sure that counts as evidence of him wasting his career Not that I'm excusing it, utterly stupid thing to do. Also, you'll find no criticism from me for Rory Loy. He was great for us, and I was disappointed he didn't come back. EDITED Just looked it up, he was 28 and at Bath Uni at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie06smfc Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I would never criticise Loy as he was great to watch last season and the goal at Hibs was a beautiful moment. However, having been at Bath University Lavety is quite clearly more of an academic than Loy. Football achievements aren’t everything, it is a short career after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Watching the old Sportscene videos on youtube of Lavety banging in goals for fun makes you wonder what he'd be worth at that age these days. Ridiculous finisher and a thorn in the side of the Ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Been told that O'Hara has been dropped for Austin and Craigan is coming in for Tiawo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 3 hours ago, houston_bud said: The revisionism of Lavety wasting his career by taking drugs. He was 18/19 when that happened, and got his move to the Premier League after that. Lavety retired aged 30, Loy is 29. Feel free compare their records. I will the next time I'm passing the plod shop but I'm not sure that loy has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 f**k me, this shull boy is a bit of a roaster. He is, but compared to your Gav guy he is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 In my opinion Lavety was miles ahead of Loy as a footballer. He had his demons but had natural ability. Lavety was making his name for himself as a teenager while Loy was pretty rubbish until his early to mid twenties. If Basher had his head screwed on he'd have really gone places, loy has his head screwed on but hasn't really gone anywhere. While he gets a lot of credit from saints fans for keeping us up last season, other than the Hibs game, I can't remember any particular game where he scored the important goal or ripped the opposition a new one to keep us up. His main attribute was being able to win fouls (learnt to dive at Falkirk) on the edge of the opposition box where wee Stevie Mallan would step up and put it home. Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 52 minutes ago, Fony Titz said: In my opinion Lavety was miles ahead of Loy as a footballer. He had his demons but had natural ability. Lavety was making his name for himself as a teenager while Loy was pretty rubbish until his early to mid twenties. If Basher had his head screwed on he'd have really gone places, loy has his head screwed on but hasn't really gone anywhere. While he gets a lot of credit from saints fans for keeping us up last season, other than the Hibs game, I can't remember any particular game where he scored the important goal or ripped the opposition a new one to keep us up. His main attribute was being able to win fouls (learnt to dive at Falkirk) on the edge of the opposition box where wee Stevie Mallan would step up and put it home. Imo. I think Lavety was very talented. Had a great opportunity when he moved to Edinburgh to change things for him. Sadly it never worked out for him. He won't be the last to get caught up in the life he chose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 In my opinion Lavety was miles ahead of Loy as a footballer. He had his demons but had natural ability. Lavety was making his name for himself as a teenager while Loy was pretty rubbish until his early to mid twenties. If Basher had his head screwed on he'd have really gone places, loy has his head screwed on but hasn't really gone anywhere. While he gets a lot of credit from saints fans for keeping us up last season, other than the Hibs game, I can't remember any particular game where he scored the important goal or ripped the opposition a new one to keep us up. His main attribute was being able to win fouls (learnt to dive at Falkirk) on the edge of the opposition box where wee Stevie Mallan would step up and put it home. Imo. I think Lavety was very talented. Had a great opportunity when he moved to Edinburgh to change things for him. Sadly it never worked out for him. He won't be the last to get caught up in the life he chose. As much as that is my opinion and I agree with what you said I wouldn't be brave enough to tell him that next time in see him sitting behind me at the football (which is every week)...he's a big guy. Though I should follow that up with any time I've met him he's been very humble and happy to talk saints. Also he's not taken advantage of my fanboy offer of free drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cicero Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Forgetting also how competitive and finances etc back when Lavety played it is pish easy these days and standard far poorer than what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fony Titz said: As much as that is my opinion and I agree with what you said I wouldn't be brave enough to tell him that next time in see him sitting behind me at the football (which is every week)...he's a big guy. Though I should follow that up with any time I've met him he's been very humble and happy to talk saints. Also he's not taken advantage of my fanboy offer of free drinks. He was always solid looking even as a teenager. Made some bad lifestyle choices. Most of us have. Good that he still goes to see his local team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Forgetting also how competitive and finances etc back when Lavety played it is pish easy these days and standard far poorer than what it was. I'll be honest I'm not one to get caught up in the "it's not as good as it used to be" pish that boo-boy older generations spout. Plus I'm not really sure what your point is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Odds appear to have changed over the week with Falkirk now favourites. According to Oddschecker 59% of bets on the match are on a Falkirk win. Hope they are right but less than convinced after last week.https://www.oddschecker.com/football/scottish/championship/falkirk-v-st-mirren/winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fony Titz said: I'll be honest I'm not one to get caught up in the "it's not as good as it used to be" pish that boo-boy older generations spout. Plus I'm not really sure what your point is. I think he's trying to say back in the day Lavetys lifestyle choices were ok ? Maybe I am wrong tho. I am with you mate. I don't get that point either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Bairnardo said: I really want Lee Miller to score/win a penalty on Saturday. Shull is at his best when Lee Miller has upset him. With his teeth would be splendid thank you, div to shut the site down for a few days. 2 hours ago, keithgy said: Been told that O'Hara has been dropped for Austin and Craigan is coming in for Tiawo. Exactly what I was thinking and to be honest wanted if sibbs can play Thomson muirhead. Ballatoni grant McGhee harris. McKee craigen. Sibbald Austin hippo on paper that's a decent line up. Obviously miss TT but who wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BEN Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Attending a wedding so I wont get a chance to watch this. Just hope the Paisley hoarde enjoy what, for many of them, will be their first visit to Scotland's cultural heartland. I imagine they'll be awstruck by The Kelpies & our massive main stand. It really is magnificent, I believe it's the biggest in the division. Size isn't everything. Didn't your girlfriend tell you that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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