Ira Gaines Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Yeah, I'm actually with you on that. It's not that I want us to lose. It's just that I don't care what result we get under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Dave Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Liam cooper is really average but appears to be flavour of the month. Would rather see Lindsay personally, not sure who alongside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 On 10/17/2017 at 05:51, Richey Edwards said: I'd go with: Scott Fox Nicky Devlin Ross McCrorie Mark Reynolds Kieran Tierney James Forrest John McGinn Tom Cairney Craig Conway Leigh Griffiths Kenny Miller That team, as horrible as it is, would hammer Craig's team. I'm all for introducing younger players, but not those particular younger players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 It would be funny if some players, especially Anya and Phillips, knock back their call ups because they refuse to play under Malky. That might be the only way that the SFA gets the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Liam cooper is really average but appears to be flavour of the month. Would rather see Lindsay personally, not sure who alongside Jack H£ndry m8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Scott Mckenna might be in with a shout for this game. Would probably only heighten Aberdeen fans levels of paranoia over Strachan not picking Shinnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 41 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: That team, as horrible as it is, would hammer Craig's team. I'm all for introducing younger players, but not those particular younger players. I want Scotland to lose so Mackay does not get the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 It would be funny if some players, especially Anya and Phillips, knock back their call ups because they refuse to play under Malky. That might be the only way that the SFA gets the message. That would sent the Tartan Army into apoplexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I'm going to kneel for the anthem. Might start a Facebook group to get everyone to do it. Anyone else keen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 That would sent the Tartan Army into apoplexy. We can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 4 hours ago, BucksburnDandy said: If I was Scotland manager, I’d look to do the following: if Brown does retire, and Paterson comes on as he needs to at Cardiff, then I would like to see a team approaching the following: Marshall; Paterson, Cooper, Tierney, Robertson; Armstrong, McGinn; Forrest, McGregor, Fraser; Griffiths. Young, high energy, attacking, positive and hungry. I would want the likes of Cummings, Lindsay, Oli Burke, Souttar, Shinnie, Bridcutt, Christie,McLean, Jack etc round the squad, Matt Phillips and Chris Martin have plenty to offer as does Anya, McArthur and Snodgrass. Captaincy wise, Kieran Tierney or Liam Cooper. Liam Cooper has 0 caps and there are plenty of Leeds fans who are still unsure of him, yet you want to consider him for captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiresexsymbol Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Will be at least two dons in the squad to get the sheep to go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Liam Cooper has 0 caps and there are plenty of Leeds fans who are still unsure of him, yet you want to consider him for captain? Yes I would consider him. We've a year to assess these things and see so he would be considered. Whether he gets it is entirely different but I wouldn't rule anyone out. We haven't exactly been blessed with many on pitch leaders in the last 20 years - when the going gets tough, we tend to crumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 We shouldn't be going down the shitey route of believing that the Captain is some kind of talisman like the English do. It's ceased to become too important as a role, so just give it to the most experienced player who is starting that game. We shouldn't be needing to look to one person in particular to lift us, it should be across the whole team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 We shouldn't be going down the shitey route of believing that the Captain is some kind of talisman like the English do. It's ceased to become too important as a role, so just give it to the most experienced player who is starting that game. We shouldn't be needing to look to one person in particular to lift us, it should be across the whole team. That's not the way how life works though, there's loads of different kinds of characters in teams. I think we would've fared better in Slovenia with Brown in the team making sure everybody stayed at it and focused. Captain is still a massive role for me. Somebody to give the team a lift when it's not going well. Ideally you'd want it to be across the whole team but everyone needs someone to look up to and to be setting an example. Listened to Barry Fergusons open goal interview, proper captain him, said that when the team was flat he would always go and do something. Even if it was a bad tackle or challenge to get the crowds back up and add a bit of spice into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: That's not the way how life works though, there's loads of different kinds of characters in teams. I think we would've fared better in Slovenia with Brown in the team making sure everybody stayed at it and focused. Captain is still a massive role for me. Somebody to give the team a lift when it's not going well. Ideally you'd want it to be across the whole team but everyone needs someone to look up to and to be setting an example. Listened to Barry Fergusons open goal interview, proper captain him, said that when the team was flat he would always go and do something. Even if it was a bad tackle or challenge to get the crowds back up and add a bit of spice into the game. Fair enough, but I disagree. To me that seems like you're constantly looking to a particular person when something happens. "It's alright, Broony/Barry will sort it". I never want any of our players thinking that. You actually kind of prove the point by pointing out how listless we looked without Brown there in the team - if we put this emphasis on one player, then what happens when he isn't available? We shouldn't be all at sea just because this guy we've put as captain isn't available. I know Brown isn't like that because he's captain, and it's just the type of player he is, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 48 minutes ago, forameus said: We shouldn't be going down the shitey route of believing that the Captain is some kind of talisman like the English do. It's ceased to become too important as a role, so just give it to the most experienced player who is starting that game. We shouldn't be needing to look to one person in particular to lift us, it should be across the whole team. From what I understand, England doesn't have an allocated captain. The armband is just given to one particular player in any given lineup. I think that's a sensible way of going about things. Scotland should certainly get back to letting players captain the side on their 50th cap. Being captain should be purely symbolic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Just now, Savage Henry said: From what I understand, England doesn't have an allocated captain. The armband is just given to one particular player in any given lineup. I think that's a sensible way of going about things. Scotland should certainly get back to letting players captain the side on their 50th cap. Being captain should be purely symbolic. You sure? They've recently been mumping on about whether Kane should be it, along with associated articles about how great a decision it was. Previously it was Rooney, around when he was pretty much unpickable. John Terry, Ferdinand...etc etc. All huge stories around the England captain. I don't think they just give it to one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Gareth Southgate Says Something But Nobody's Really Listening Because He's Quite Dull But It's Relevant To The Discussion At Hand So Here's A Link 29 minutes ago, forameus said: You sure? They've recently been mumping on about whether Kane should be it, along with associated articles about how great a decision it was. Previously it was Rooney, around when he was pretty much unpickable. John Terry, Ferdinand...etc etc. All huge stories around the England captain. I don't think they just give it to one player. ETA Not sure what happened with the formatting there, but I can't be arsed changing it. Anyway, Southgate says he doesn't really care about who the captain is. I thought he had been more explicit about it and said a captain only keeps the job for two games, but I can't find that anywhere. Possibly I imagined it. Anyway, I think he's got the right attitude, even if the fans/red tops don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Fair enough, but I disagree. To me that seems like you're constantly looking to a particular person when something happens. "It's alright, Broony/Barry will sort it". I never want any of our players thinking that. You actually kind of prove the point by pointing out how listless we looked without Brown there in the team - if we put this emphasis on one player, then what happens when he isn't available? We shouldn't be all at sea just because this guy we've put as captain isn't available. I know Brown isn't like that because he's captain, and it's just the type of player he is, but still. Too idealistic. If Browns missing we don't really seem to have anyone else like him which is why he's so important, that's the main thing he brings to the team, his character. If he didn't have that attitude or it was based purely on footballing ability he probably wouldn't play. ETA: Kieran Tierney for me will be able to follow in his footsteps soon though I think. Looks cut out for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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