professor challenger Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 59 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said: Morrison and Bannan were still utter shite though. I was going to say Bannan was the best player on the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 This debate about grinding out last-minute winners... I suppose you could say needing last-minute winners or equalisers is a negative, not a positive . It's happened before anyway - last minute winners v Georgia (Euro 2008 qualifying), Liechtenstein (Euro 2012) and away to FYR Macedonia (WC 2014). Also last 10mins winner at home to FYR Macedonia (WC 2010) and to rescue a draw at home to Czech Rep (Euro 2012). This campaign with 4 shows grit - but also riding our luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 As much as I've been critical of Strachan during his tenure at times, on this occasion - the last few games particularly - we've a) looked a threat most times, b) defended pretty well and c) kept going despite some rotten luck (tonight especially). Griffiths was again outstanding and a lot of the credit for the goal goes to him for a class touch and willingness to not lose possession. Those who criticised Anya's introduction should also realise that had Tierney stayed on I don't think that kind of chance would have been created as for me Tierney, bar a couple of times, was always slowing down to play it on his left foot whereas Anya had the pace to get into the box and get the ball in (not a criticism of Tierney btw, just that as Strachan said post-match he looked uncomfortable in that position at times) Phillips was the big let down for me, poor touches at times, reluctant to take men on and a bit ponderous. And the midfield admittedly lacked the kind of energy of the past couple of games (I personally would have McGregor in against Slovenia mainly for that attacking threat he will offer, similar to what Armstrong has been doing). Finally, as much as we've berated the defence, it's good to see a settled back line now, and I thought Berra and Mulgrew again looked really composed - three clean sheets in a row is something we'd have been desperate for at the start of this campaign Couldnt disagree with anything there. Particularly about Griffiths. Hes absolutely shown up those who said hes out if his depth in international football. Hes a huge nuisance to defenders even on high balls n works both incredibly hard but very intelligently. Id say him starting is a huge factor in us turning our form around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 When nobody talks about a player you know he's doing a good, reliable job. It's been a good choice having him back in the side. Yeah i was dubious but he looked very assured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, PB 4.2 said: Mulgrew is considerably better than Berra and really good in possession. Mulgrew is one of those odd players, who ain't really all that good (hence he's playing in League One) but always does well for his national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 This debate about grinding out last-minute winners... I suppose you could say needing last-minute winners or equalisers is a negative, not a positive [emoji38]. It's happened before anyway - last minute winners v Georgia (Euro 2008 qualifying), Liechtenstein (Euro 2012) and away to FYR Macedonia (WC 2014). Also last 10mins winner at home to FYR Macedonia (WC 2010) and to rescue a draw at home to Czech Rep (Euro 2012). Big difference between the quality of side though, that's the point I'm getting at. Wasn't the Czech game a must-win game similar to tonight's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 ie 'rescuing a point' is a bit of a misnomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Terrific result. We really should have been at least 3 goals to the good. In saying that, I can’t believe Bannan lasted 90 minutes. I thought he was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Darren Fletcher was excellent tonight. My only complaint about him was not wearing number 7 but that’s just OCD. Bannan and Morrison were extremely poor in the first half, but Bannan was really good when he moved out to the left. We were quite pedestrian at times, but I think that was down to them being well-organised more than anything. They also played some really nice stuff. That dive though Roll on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominique Malonga Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Quite simply the best atmosphere I've ever experienced(bar the cup final) glad to see Martin score as well, never been a big fan of his but he's been slated from his own fans before he's even been on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Couldnt disagree with anything there. Particularly about Griffiths. Hes absolutely shown up those who said hes out if his depth in international football. Hes a huge nuisance to defenders even on high balls n works both incredibly hard but very intelligently. Id say him starting is a huge factor in us turning our form around. I think he’s an odious individual, and he’d be first out the side if there was another alternative. Clearly, at this point, there isn’t. He very obviously Scotland’s first choice in their current set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Terrific result. We really should have been at least 3 goals to the good. In saying that, I can’t believe Bannan lasted 90 minutes. I thought he was terrible. Find it very odd that theres such a strong split ie those who thought that him n morrison were good n those who thought they were both rotten. Didnt see anything at all from either tbh. Kinda weird that we all interpret a game so differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Thought we were OK tonight, weren't blistering but got the job done. Our build up play can be painfully slow mind, don't think Fletcher helps with that. I felt Bannan was hot and cold tonight, some nice touches but some poor passes. Phillips and Forrest were pretty average as was Tierney second half. Morrison, Griff and Robertson were all pretty good. Centre halves and Gordon were fine too, didn't have that much to worry about, few hairy moments but that's to be expected. I think the key thing to take away is we're still in it and we did so without playing anywhere near as well as we can. Well in big Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lanarkshire Jag Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Also last 10mins winner at home to FYR Macedonia (WC 2010) and to rescue a draw at home to Czech Rep (Euro 2012). Interesting definitions. We beat Macedonia 2-0 at home in the WC 2010 qualifiers(2nd goal in 80th minute) and "rescued" a 2-2 draw against the Czech Rep despite being 2-1 up going into injury time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieCon Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 minute ago, dogmc said: Find it very odd that theres such a strong split ie those who thought that him n morrison were good n those who thought they were both rotten. Didnt see anything at all from either tbh. Kinda weird that we all interpret a game so differently. I thought Bannan was poor in the first half but improved massively in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor challenger Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 38 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: I thought Morrison was excellent. Again. Jeez, I thought Morrison was easily the worst player on the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundskeeperWillie Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 minute ago, ancientnoise said: Our Salvatore Schillaci?* *May have pushed the boat out a bit there, but get your meaning. I was thinking something along the lines of Miroslav Klose who while he had a successful club career didn't ever seem to hit the kind of heights he did for his country. I know there's no direct comparison, but Mulgrew offers us the kind of composure we wouldn't get with a say Hanley or a Russell Martin, and I think Berra is actually a good foil for him in defence, hence why the partnership has worked so well so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-RCFC Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Jeez, I thought Morrison was easily the worst player on the park How he missed that chance on 70 odd minutes I'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Thought we were OK tonight, weren't blistering but got the job done. Our build up play can be painfully slow mind, don't think Fletcher helps with that. I felt Bannan was hot and cold tonight, some nice touches but some poor passes. Phillips and Forrest were pretty average as was Tierney second half. Morrison, Griff and Robertson were all pretty good. Centre halves and Gordon were fine too, didn't have that much to worry about, few hairy moments but that's to be expected. I think the key thing to take away is we're still in it and we did so without playing anywhere near as well as we can. Well in big Chris. Fletcher was there to help us get a clean sheet n he helped achieve that. Easily our best midfielder over the 90. Suspect he could lap Phillips n morrison in a race around the 6 yard box. Totally agree about Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Jeez, I thought Morrison was easily the worst player on the park Nobody knows anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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