chomp my root Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, NotThePars said: Well, yes because I don't think that white supremacists should be free to charge around the place demanding forcible repatriation and reprisals against vulnerable minority groups in this country. How that differs from, well, the entire history of national socialism and fascism is apparent to anyone who can read words and understand history beyond some vague overly simplistic equivalency drawing. Are people allowed to have different views on abortion to YOU, or allowed different views on the royal family to YOU ? Maybe there's certain papers YOU don't like, we could just get rid of them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 That's a bigger straw man than the one they burned Nicholas Cage in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 What a way to spectacularly miss the entire point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, Menzel said: There's a difference between people "saying things you don't like" and people actively advocating for your expulsion from your own country or your actual death you balloon. I'm loving the sense of outrage because a handful of losers have a wee jamboree. People say (and do) horrible things all the time, just it doesn't make the news (or in this case a football forum). If you extract your own sense of engagement with this pathetic and futile 'march' then what difference has it made 2 minutes ago, Menzel said: What a way to spectacularly miss the entire point. Yup. But I think the irony is missed on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 There's no outrage. I just think you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You are, in some senses, a perfect target for the SDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Menzel said: What a way to spectacularly miss the entire point. Hi it's the smart libertarian man here to tell you that if you don't support the right of every single view to be loudly proclaimed down a street unopposed then it is fact YOU who's the Nazi. My entire world view revolves around the saying "sticks and stones may break my bones but names can never hurt me". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Menzel said: There's no outrage. I just think you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You are, in some senses, a perfect target for the SDL. Hmmm, my spider senses are detecting outrage, you're already labelling people 'balloons', I'm managing to hold back the tears, just, but another nasty comment like that might tip me over the edge. So tell me more about this SDL if its something I might get into, I'm open to new ideas. 3 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Hi it's the smart libertarian man here to tell you that if you don't support the right of every single view to be loudly proclaimed down a street unopposed then it is fact YOU who's the Nazi. My entire world view revolves around the saying "sticks and stones may break my bones but names can never hurt me". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 It's more the fact that a lot of recruitment targets are white men who are a bit thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Some sizzling hot #content from yer libertarian da here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Menzel said: It's more the fact that a lot of recruitment targets are white men who are a bit thick. A balloon AND thick, yup, definitely outrage. I might as well 'fess up, not only am I white (boo, hiss), I'm fat and middle aged too. Its a heady cocktail of potential racist. So apart from the SDL who else would you stop having their wee parades ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, chomp my root said: A balloon AND thick, yup, definitely outrage. I might as well 'fess up, not only am I white (boo, hiss), I'm fat and middle aged too. Its a heady cocktail of potential racist. So apart from the SDL who else would you stop having their wee parades ? Obviously not enough clues in the term "anti-fascism" I take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I remember being in a pub in town when a march similar to this was on, when a few SDL c***s came in. Our reaction was just to think "the state of those c***s" then going somewhere else, which I guess is how the vast, vast majority of people would react, i.e don't rise to their bait, and move on.Generally find the type who advocate "punching Nazis" are the type who wouldn't even dream of doing so themselves if they found themselves in that position. Amongst those I know, it's seemingly more about elevating their own moral standing above those who don't think smacking c***s is necessarily the best approach.Counter protests are great though, in the real world both marches tend so heavily policed there's very little chance of serious bother given the small number of attendees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, Menzel said: Obviously not enough clues in the term "anti-fascism" I take it. Are we throwing random words about ? It certainly wasn't in the post I've quoted, I'm sure you can find other things that you'd ban, go on, have a wee think about it, I'm sure there's plenty things you think the world would be a better place without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I never talked about banning anything, including the SDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbirdonthewire Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, chomp my root said: Are people allowed to have different views on abortion to YOU, or allowed different views on the royal family to YOU ? Maybe there's certain papers YOU don't like, we could just get rid of them too. You can just tell 'chomp my root' is the kind of guy who had started a sentence with 'I'm not racist but...' at least once in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Menzel said: I never talked about banning anything, including the SDL. I take it then you're happy for them to continue doing their thing then. Wow. Now I'm confused, you're maybe right that I'm a bit on the thick side....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Blackbirdonthewire said: You can just tell 'chomp my root' is the kind of guy who had started a sentence with 'I'm not racist but...' at least once in his life. I'm not sure I follow your logic and I'm intrigued now. I have called people out for starting sentences like that though. I'm maybe just not as right on as some on here, hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, chomp my root said: I take it then you're happy for them to continue doing their thing then. Wow. No. I just don't think the state trying to ban organisations is going to actually see around the defeat of fascism. National Action haven't just disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Menzel said: No. I just don't think the state trying to ban organisations is going to actually see around the defeat of fascism. National Action haven't just disappeared. Ah, so the answer is another bunch of placard carrying ranters, that will do the trick. Fair one, its always worked in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Here comes yer da with his politics O Level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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