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2 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

BSCG would only be 1pt behind if won game-in-hand and beat EK, tbf.

Would probably need Spartans to slip-up x2 v 'Shire.

Spartans were my pre season tip and i'm still sticking with them although I think it will be between them and EK.  To be fair to BSC they have had a good season but I think they'll come short in the end.

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I assume Cove have a youth/second team.

Why not, after making the league secure, play these players for the remaining league games?

It allows the first team regulars to prepare for the playoffs and gives the youngsters experience and an opportunity to impress.

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15 hours ago, haufdaft said:

I assume Cove have a youth/second team.

Why not, after making the league secure, play these players for the remaining league games?

It allows the first team regulars to prepare for the playoffs and gives the youngsters experience and an opportunity to impress.

Might be controversial but if Cove win "early" any outstanding league games could also potentially be deferred until after the playoffs. This happened (granted in different circumstances) in 2015-16 with Edinburgh City. Having barely had a postponement all season, their only midweek game away v Vale of Leithen was waterlogged 3 midweeks in a row, and the last game of the season away v Whitehill was also waterlogged. They'd already won LL so games were caught-up immediately after playoffs ended.

Don't know if you could play them at the same time as the playoff, though - what about suspensions?

 

12 hours ago, surely not! said:

That’s what Edinburgh city did for the times they were in the playoffs

That's because the Lowland League Cup is played at the same time as the playoffs, instead of trying to cram it in before April and everyone's season finishing really early. Champion can either not enter (which is what Edinburgh City did) or enter their U20s (which is what East Kilbride did)... In 2015-16 when LL only had 14 clubs there were sections with the knockouts at the end of the season, but City didn't qualify from their section.

They didn't play part of the cup then scratch.



Any hopes of Cove winning ASAP weren't helped today when they drew with Wick and Fraserburgh's game was postponed.

EK beat CSS. East Stirlingshire beat VoL.

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1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said:

Might be controversial but if Cove win "early" any outstanding league games could also potentially be deferred until after the playoffs. This happened (granted in different circumstances) in 2015-16 with Edinburgh City. Having barely had a postponement all season, their only midweek game away v Vale of Leithen was waterlogged 3 midweeks in a row, and the last game of the season away v Whitehill was also waterlogged. They'd already won LL so games were caught-up immediately after playoffs ended.

Don't know if you could play them at the same time as the playoff, though - what about suspensions?

 

That's because the Lowland League Cup is played at the same time as the playoffs, instead of trying to cram it in before April and everyone's season finishing really early. Champion can either not enter (which is what Edinburgh City did) or enter their U20s (which is what East Kilbride did)... In 2015-16 when LL only had 14 clubs there were sections with the knockouts at the end of the season, but City didn't qualify from their section.

They didn't play part of the cup then scratch.



Any hopes of Cove winning ASAP weren't helped today when they drew with Wick and Fraserburgh's game was postponed.

EK beat CSS. East Stirlingshire beat VoL.

given our cup final record scratching from any cup would be a popular decision... now when's that pesky City Cup draw... :lol:

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Stenhousemuir 1-2 Cowdenbeath

Hawick Royal Albert 0-2 Spartans


Cowdenbeath win and close to 9pts off Berwick.

Spartans close to 3pts off EK with 2 games-in-hand.

From 2-0 down Cove lost Highland League Cup SF 3-2 at Fraserburgh. It's claimed further HL fixtures being issued tomorrow.

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HL has issued fixtures to the end of the season, including an Easter Monday game for Cove at home v Rothes... however 2 of their league games have not been assigned dates. Possibly they're banking on Cove being 7pts+ clear meaning Forres + Nairn (both H) are meaningless.

Cove are currently 3pts clear of Inverurie with 4 games-in-hand; 5pts clear of Fraserburgh with 2 games-in-hand.

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              Cowdenbeat   |      Cove      |   East Kilb.    Spartans    BSC Glasg.   East Stir.

                           |                |

                           |                |

Sat 24 Mar    Stirl’g(A)   |   Lossie.(A)   |   no fixture   Whiteh.(A)   Civil  (H)   Hawick (A)

 mid-week     Clyde  (H)   |   Fraser.(A)   |                Dalbea.(A)   E. Univ(A)

Sat 31 Mar    Stenh’r(H)   |   Fort W.(A)   |   LTHV   (H)   E. Stir(A)   G. Univ(A)   Spartan(H)

 mid-week     Montr’e(H)   |Rot.(H)  Str.(A)|   Whiteh.(A)

Sat 07 Apr    Clyde  (H)   |   Wick   (A)   |   BSCG   (A)   Gretna (A)   E. Kilb(H)   Whiteh.(H)

 mid-week                  |   Clachn.(H)   |                             Whiteh.(A)

Sat 14 Apr    Peter’d(A)   |   Brora  (A)   |   S. Univ(A)   E. Stir(H)   Hawick (H)   Spartan(A)

                           |------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sat 21 Apr    Berwick(A)   |
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Sat 28 Apr    Annan  (H)   |

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no date yet                    Forres (H)

                               Nairn  (H)

South Challenge Cup Semi-Final
EOS Qualifying Cup Final

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On ‎28‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 23:09, HibeeJibee said:

One for the future, yet also a blast from the past... Clydebank FC announced tonight that 86% of members have voted to move the club from the Juniors into the Senior pyramid:

http://www.clydebankfc.com/club-announcement/


They join Dalkeith as confirmed "intended movers"

http://www.dalkeiththistle.co.uk/news/club-announcement-east-of-scotland-league-2145411.html

with several more Junior clubs and Amateurs rumoured to be following.

Next up are Bonnyrigg Rose - East Junior champions season before last/runnersup (to Kelty) last season - who announce that 82% of members have voted to join the East of Scotland League:

http://www.bonnyriggrosefc.co.uk/teams/118321/news/results-of-sgm-2227290.html

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/lower-leagues/bonnyrigg-rose-to-consider-move-into-east-of-scotland-league-1-4711164

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Another interesting day.

Cowdenbeath collected 1pt in SPFL2; so did Berwick and Edinburgh City... Cove, Inverurie and Fraserburgh all won convincingly in HL... Spartans won past archrivals Whitehill Welfare 2-1 in LL, where BSCG and East Stirlingshire also prevailed... so basically "as you were" across divisions.


Also seems it was Cove themselves who decided how many games they'd catch-up:

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/highland-league/1439957/cove-try-to-secure-the-highland-league-with-four-games-in-a-week/

Their aim is to win HL by April 7th, which would entail being 13pts clear by my reckoning.

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54 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Also seems it was Cove themselves who decided how many games they'd catch-up:

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/highland-league/1439957/cove-try-to-secure-the-highland-league-with-four-games-in-a-week/

Their aim is to win HL by April 7th, which would entail being 13pts clear by my reckoning.

Tuesday night will be crucial for Cove - win that and the next game against Fort William, then by the end of the month they will just need 8 points (or 7 with their GD) to secure the title.

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More than that: any strategy of having it wrapped-up by April 7th potentially requires Cove to win their next 5 games?

Tue 27th Mar ... Fraserburgh (A)
Sat 31st Mar ... Fort William (A)
Mon 2nd Apr ... Rothes (H)
Wed 4th Apr ... Strathspey (A)
Sat 7th Apr ... Wick (A)


That would put them on 84pts. Inverurie could only reach 81pts; Fraserburgh 82pts.


Drop any points, however, and - unless Inverurie or Fraserburgh (other than v Cove) did similarly - the gamble would fail: they could still be caught and it wouldn't be wrapped-up.

Given by then their only remaining date would be Mon 9th Apr - 48hrs after game #5 at Wick - they'd be relying on points from Clachnacuddin (H) + Brora (A) proving sufficient.

Interesting to follow it, certainly.


EDIT: For completeness - Inverurie host Rothes midweek but haven't a game next weekend, while Fraserburgh are on Highland League Cup duty. Following midweek Inverurie visit Forres, while Fraserburgh haven't a game. In a fortnight Inverurie host Brora, while Fraserburgh visit Rothes.

So after hosting Cove midweek, Fraserburgh only have 1 other league game in which to drop points - at Rothes on April 7th - upto and including April 7th.

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On ‎24‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 19:15, HibeeJibee said:

Also seems it was Cove themselves who decided how many games they'd catch-up:

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/highland-league/1439957/cove-try-to-secure-the-highland-league-with-four-games-in-a-week/

Their aim is to win HL by April 7th, which would entail being 13pts clear by my reckoning.

 

On ‎24‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 20:13, Ginaro said:

Tuesday night will be crucial for Cove - win that and the next game against Fort William, then by the end of the month they will just need 8 points (or 7 with their GD) to secure the title.

 

On ‎24‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 20:42, HibeeJibee said:

More than that: any strategy of having it wrapped-up by April 7th potentially requires Cove to win their next 5 games?


Well an inauspicious start has been made as tonight's Fraserburgh v Cove game is sadly called off for waterlogging...

"All hands to the pump" in more ways than one: they try again tomorrow.

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Berwick 2-2 Elgin
Cowdenbeath 0-3 Clyde
Stirling Albion 2-2 Edinburgh City

Fraserburgh P-P Cove Rangers
Keith P-P Formartine Utd

Edinburgh University 0-0 BSC Glasgow



Cowdenbeath's revival stutters as their gap to Berwick and Edinburgh City grows by 1pt.

BSCG on the precipice of exiting LL title race, now 6pts behind with 3 games left (but Spartans 4 left).

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On ‎27‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 15:25, HibeeJibee said:

Well an inauspicious start has been made as tonight's Fraserburgh v Cove game is sadly called off for waterlogging...

"All hands to the pump" in more ways than one: they try again tomorrow.

... and if I mix my metaphor "the engine winnae take it captain!" as it again falls foul of a waterlogged pitch tonight.

As a result Cove now have 3 games and Fraserburgh 4 games without dates.




EDIT: P&J reported Cove's strategy was to have league won by April 7th so remaining games didn't matter (they now have 3 games without dates).

If they won their next 4 games they'd be on 81pts at April 7th.

If won subsequent 2 games they'd be on 87pts at April 14th.


Fraserburgh are on HL Cup duty this weekend and have no game next midweek (they now have 4 games without dates).

If they won at Rothes they'd be on 67pts at April 7th, but could reach 85pts; if drew 65pts, but could reach 83pts; if lost 64pts, but could reach 82pts.

If they won subsequent 2 games they'd be on 70-73pts at April 14th, and could reach 82-85pts.


So as schedule stands - it's impossible for Cove to win at April 7th; and only possible at April 14th via 6 straight wins / Fraserburgh dropping as many points as them?

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