The Grass Is Greener. Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Unleash The Nade said: Why? so you can get a hard on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 4 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Where? Places like this http://www.secondcycles.co.uk/gallery-2/ Loads of social enterprise all over doing up old bikes and selling them. You would need to come to Dundee for that one but we would meet up and drink mcewans export at the swing park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: Places like this http://www.secondcycles.co.uk/gallery-2/ Loads of social enterprise all over doing up old bikes and selling them. You would need to come to Dundee for that one but we would meet up and drink mcewans export at the swing park. I look now and again, then decide I'd rather die in bed full of morphine than be tangled in the mechanics of a lorry, but I'll have a look at that later. The swing park sounds good, but since my coeliac diagnosis, I'm more of a White Lightening man. My body is a temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Getting the apple's vitamins and minerals inside you is vital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Rules should be the same for cars and bikes. You smash into a woman and kill her in a car with no front brakes, regardless of her being in the wrong crossing the road, and you get a harsher sentence than this cyclist is getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I'd like to know the reasons why he was found not guilty of manslaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Rules should be the same for cars and bikes. You smash into a woman and kill her in a car with no front brakes, regardless of her being in the wrong crossing the road, and you get a harsher sentence than this cyclist is getting. But there is a clear difference. Cars are much, much more dangerous. By all accounts, this guy is a c**t. But the rules can't be the same when there's such a clear difference in the dangerousness (yeah i'm going with it) of the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 53 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'd like to know the reasons why he was found not guilty of manslaughter. Is it because it was a woman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, pandarilla said: But there is a clear difference. Cars are much, much more dangerous. By all accounts, this guy is a c**t. But the rules can't be the same when there's such a clear difference in the dangerousness (yeah i'm going with it) of the vehicle. You have to be a lot more reckless with a bike to kill someone, precisely for that reason. This wasn't a minor lapse of concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 You have to be a lot more reckless with a bike to kill someone, precisely for that reason. This wasn't a minor lapse of concentration. Do you think reckless driving punishments should be the same for both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Do you think reckless driving punishments should be the same for both? If it results in death, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 If it results in death, yes. I'd have thought that in terms of accidents - the level of danger of the vehicle should be taken into consideration. You don't have to be that reckless in a car to take a life. That's not the case on a bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I'd have thought that in terms of accidents - the level of danger of the vehicle should be taken into consideration. You don't have to be that reckless in a car to take a life. That's not the case on a bike. No, so you should be more careful. Sentencing should be about deterrent as well as level of guilt. You can obviously do a lot more with a bike without serious risk of killing someone than a car, and you have to be more careful in a car, but you should be aware of that and get the same punishment if you do kill or seriously injure someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I'd have thought that in terms of accidents - the level of danger of the vehicle should be taken into consideration. What a lot of pish. I can see the judges now "you mowed down an entire family, but your were only driving a smart car and not a steamroller, 50 hours community service" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 What a lot of pish. I can see the judges now "you mowed down an entire family, but your were only driving a smart car and not a steamroller, 50 hours community service" Great analogy mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 39 minutes ago, Romeo said: What a lot of pish. I can see the judges now "you mowed down an entire family, but your were only driving a smart car and not a steamroller, 50 hours community service" My cousin got run over by a steamroller. I went to visit him in hospital afterwards, he was in wards 4,5 and 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 47 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Great analogy mate. Whats wrong with it, it exactly what you suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, supermik said: My cousin got run over by a steamroller. I went to visit him in hospital afterwards, he was in wards 4,5 and 6. What did you nick from him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rugster said: What did you nick from him? Size 34 trainers, hard to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rugster said: What did you nick from him? Got the money in his pockets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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