mizfit Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4818846/Cyclist-knocked-mother-ghoulish-tattoo.html Been reading about this quite a lot recently. Does anyone on P&B Believe cyclists should be made to sit tests before cycling on a road, even paying road tax, or having to take insurance out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 He seems like a right little c**t anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 They are a danger to themselves and other road users and cycling on public roads and pavements should be banned. Cycle lanes only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, mizfit said: Does anyone on P&B Believe cyclists should be made to sit tests before cycling on a road, even paying road tax, or having to take insurance out? Don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 cYListS SHouLd paY rOAd TaX jUST LIke i HaVE tO PaY FOr MY Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 As a car driver I can't begin to describe how much I enjoy having to deal with small, slow, apparently incredibly fragile and usually one step away from a full-blown roid rage, road users known as "cyclists". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramagamma Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 People who go on leisurely cycles on busy roads at rush hour are scum. We get you want to combine transport and fitness. That's great. f**k off to a velodrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Just now, Ramagamma said: People who go on leisurely cycles on busy roads at rush hour are scum. We get you want to combine transport and fitness. That's great. f**k off to a velodrome. Surely they'll just go round in circles and not actually get anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramagamma Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Cyclists i can tolerate its those wankers that use the bikes where you lie on your back. Give over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Radio Scotland had a phone-in on this just this morning. As usual, some of the cyclists came across as thinking that their fellow kind could do no serious wrong and should be allowed to carry on with the status quo regardless of the current problems that they are happy to sweep under the carpet. Reminds me of that viral video from London a month or two ago where the cyclist pulled out from a left hand turn only lane into a path of a lorry who continued travelling straight on in the straight on his straight on lane. I saw which friends had commented on FB, and low and behold, only the cyclists were defending the cyclist / criticising the driver. This said, how are kids meant to learn to ride bikes if they can't cycle on pavements or need some form of licence? Can't see me being a road cyclist as an adult now tbh, but I used to use my bike daily as a kid to head up to the woods etc etc. Too far away otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_mfc Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Plenty of bell ends on both sides of the debate. It's pretty simple for both sides in the whole thing, don't be a dick on the roads. The cycle path thing is a good idea in theory but they are usually full of dog shit, dog walkers and joggers who get annoyed / seem surprised that there are bikes on the path... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 The laws of when vehicle users cause death or serious injury to others are far too lenient. A person using a vehicle in an illegal manner that causes death or serious injury should face manslaughter charges. The vehicle was being used illegally an in an illegal state that contributed to the accident. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/568484/rrcgb-2015.pdf Quote RAS10012 Reported accidents involving pedestrians and one vehicle by severity and vehicle type, Great Britain, 2015 Number of accidents ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........Fatal ........Serious ........Slight ........All severities Single vehicle accidents Pedal cycle 2........ 100........ 304........ 406 Motorcycle 50cc and under 0 ........22........ 83........ 105 Motorcycle 51cc - 125cc 4 ........97........ 395........ 496 Motorcycle 126cc - 500cc 2 ........23........ 79........ 104 Motorcycle over 500cc 4........ 55........ 161........ 220 All motorcycles 10........ 197........ 738........ 945 Car 212 ........3,433........ 12,771........ 16,416 Taxi / Private hire car 15 ........203........ 861........ 1,079 Minibus 1 ........9 ........49 ........ 59 Bus or coach 26 ........ 193 ........ 737 ........ 956 Van / Light goods vehicle 27 ........260 ........ 1,002 ........ 1,289 Heavy goods vehicle 44 ........ 105 ........232 ........ 381 of which: Rigid 27 ........85 ........ 194 ........ 306 Articulated 17 ........ 20 ........ 38 ........ 75 Mobility scooter ........ 0 ........ 5 ........ 29 ........ 34 Other vehicle 10 ........ 39 ........ 160 ........ 209 Any vehicle 348 ........ 4,551 ........ 16,895 ........ 21,794 Accidents involving pedestrian and two or more vehicles 56 359 1,049 1,464 Of 404 reported pedestrian deaths caused by either 1 or multiple vehicles in 2015 only 2 were related to bicycles. Every road death is serious, it would be good to see the same attention on all other offenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Can't wait for Nade to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 A classic fact which was barely mentioned on the TV news last night is that when the lassie initially stepped out onto the road, she was reading her smartphone. There's a fair percentage of Darwin Awardism factoring into this accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 2 hours ago, mizfit said: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4818846/Cyclist-knocked-mother-ghoulish-tattoo.html Been reading about this quite a lot recently. Does anyone on P&B Believe cyclists should be made to sit tests before cycling on a road, even paying road tax, or having to take insurance out? Road tax for something with zero emissions? Most cyclists will have already passed a driving test and will have insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WullieBroonIsGod Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 2 hours ago, mizfit said: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4818846/Cyclist-knocked-mother-ghoulish-tattoo.html Been reading about this quite a lot recently. Does anyone on P&B Believe cyclists should be made to sit tests before cycling on a road, even paying road tax, or having to take insurance out? Road tax is a bit of a non issue for me, given the zero emissions. There should be a minimum safety standard for a bike though. Cutting about on a bike with no brakes is ridiculous. (Admittedly I know very little details on the case, so and P and Bers can enlighten me if I've been wooshed by some biased journalism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 As usual the daily mail totally miss the point, who cares that the twat had a tattoo or not. 7 minutes ago, Boghead ranter said: A classic fact which was barely mentioned on the TV news last night is that when the lassie initially stepped out onto the road, she was reading her smartphone. There's a fair percentage of Darwin Awardism factoring into this accident. Except that she wasn't.. The very article quoted states that he claimed she was on her phone at the time but witnesses confirmed that wasn't the case, which begs me to ask, if he could see she was apparently on a phone, why didn't he avoid hitting her? "On an internet forum for fixed-wheel bike enthusiasts, he later described how he twice warned her to 'get the f*** outta my way'."If he had brakes this could have been avoided, but at the same time to play devil's advocate, if what he said is true about her seemingly stopping and looking at him when he was shouting, then why didn't she move?https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2017/aug/23/motorist-would-not-have-landed-cyclists-wanton-and-furious-driving-charge"Alliston has always been adamant this was so (including in some very poorly judged online forum comments he made in the days after the incident when Briggs lay in hospital) and the prosecution, who had access to CCTV and witnesses, did not contend otherwise. Instead it was alleged that with a front brake Alliston would have been able to stop before any collision took place."So it does seem there is blame on both sides here but there's no doubt that twat is largely to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Most cyclists are a fucking law unto themselves - riding through red lights - cutting in etc etc. Cvnts most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Road tax is a bit of a non issue for me, given the zero emissions. There should be a minimum safety standard for a bike though. Cutting about on a bike with no brakes is ridiculous. (Admittedly I know very little details on the case, so and P and Bers can enlighten me if I've been wooshed by some biased journalism) The bike he was riding did have brakes. It was a fixed wheel bike, you brake the back wheel by pedalling more slowly or stopping pedalling altogether. It just didn't have front brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Plenty of bell ends on both sides of the debate. Very, very true. But those driving the cars are (almost entirely) safe whilst those on the bikes are being injured and killed in quite high numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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