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Probably my favourite band and one of the most under-rated bands in recent memory, I was going to make the topic about their new album, Science Fiction, but thought I'd open it to a general discussion.

Science Fiction is an utterly superb piece of work, I don't think there's a poor track on it, there seems to be many influences throughout the album from Bon Iver, Nirvana, Rolling Stones and I can hear a bit of 30 Seconds to Mars in there. 

Really gonna miss these guys when they're gone, what with them retiring next year. So glad I have tickets for what should be their final time in Scotland.

Fyi, SoCo Amaretto Lime is possibly my favourite song by Brand New, feel free to add or discuss anything/everything to do with this hugely under-appreciated band.

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One of my favourite bands without a doubt. Science Fiction is a fantastic piece of work and if it is their last then what a way to go out.

Deja is one of my all time favourite albums and I was lucky enough to see them play it live, but their gig at The Art School was something else entirely. A gig I'll never forget.

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32 minutes ago, Sauzee#4 said:

One of my favourite bands without a doubt. Science Fiction is a fantastic piece of work and if it is their last then what a way to go out.

Deja is one of my all time favourite albums and I was lucky enough to see them play it live, but their gig at The Art School was something else entirely. A gig I'll never forget.

The Art School gig was really really special.  The encore with Jesse solo was incredible.

One of my favourite bands of all time.  It's bittersweet that Science Fiction is so good since it's most probably the last piece of work we hear from them.  451 is an early favourite of mine - reminds me of The Black Keys and even a bit of Bowie in the chorus.  Can't Get It Out too - it wouldn't sound out of place on Deja!

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Thanks for pointing me to the new album. Your Favourite Weapon and Deja Entendu are albums that I go back to from time to time. The key to their greatness is the breadth of tracks on albums. From heavy to acoustic they nail each one. And the genre changes don't become confused as themes develop and flow through each album. 

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6 hours ago, sonsism said:

The Art School gig was really really special.  The encore with Jesse solo was incredible.

One of my favourite bands of all time.  It's bittersweet that Science Fiction is so good since it's most probably the last piece of work we hear from them.  451 is an early favourite of mine - reminds me of The Black Keys and even a bit of Bowie in the chorus.  Can't Get It Out too - it wouldn't sound out of place on Deja!

The setlist on a whole that night was pretty much perfect. 

Can't Get It Out is probably one of my favourite songs they've ever written. Out of Mana and No Control are decent too.

I don't know what the rest of you think, but I hope they drop the likes of Jesus from the setlist.

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I’m liking the new album, though not as much as some I don’t think. It feels very much likes it’s written as a last album and doesn’t reach the heights of the first three in my opinion.

Still can’t wait to see them again though I suspect, if time allows, they’ll be back in the UK at some point before they finish up for good. It would be odd only to do 3 dates (including Dublin) without announcing them as final shows otherwise.

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Absolutely shocked by the allegations. I'd like to think he's cleaned up his act since the early 2000s especially since he's got a daughter now but he's got to take responsibility if true. Personally I'll still listen to the songs either way but definitely in two minds about next Sunday if it even goes ahead.

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"In an effort to address recent events and the public conversation currently happening, I feel it is important to make a clear and personal statement.

The actions of my past have caused pain and harm to a number of people, and I want to say that I am absolutely sorry. I do not stand in defense of myself nor do I forgive myself. I was selfish, narcissistic, and insensitive in my past, and there are a number of people who have had to shoulder the burden of my failures. I apologize for the hurt I have caused, and hope to be able to take the correct actions to earn forgiveness and trust.

Early on in my life, I developed a dependent and addictive relationship with sex. I was scared of it, ashamed, and unwilling or unable to admit it, and so it grew into a consistent and terrible problem. Years ago, after admitting my habits and cheating to my then soon to be wife, I began to approach my problem in a serious way. I entered professional treatment, both in group therapy and individual counseling, and revealed the realities of what a terrible place I had gotten to in my life, and what a terrible impact my actions had on people.

Lust, sex, love, and arousal were coping tools for me, and I returned to them repeatedly. I detached my own feelings and emotions from most of my sexual interactions. I hid, or lied about my behavior to escape reproach. I was a habitual cheater. I have been unfaithful in many, if not most of my relationships, including the relationship with my wife, who has with all of her might, patience, and grace, tried to hold our marriage together, despite having to endure the pain of the revelations of my past. It is heart wrenching that the most important changes in my life have come at the expense of others.

I am sorry for how I have hurt people, mistreated them, lied, and cheated. I am sorry for ignoring the way in which my position, status, and power as a member of a band affected the way people viewed me or their approach to their interactions with me. And I am sorry for how often I have not afforded women the respect, support, or honesty that they deserved, and which is their right. I believe in the equality and autonomy of all, but in my life I have been more of a detriment to these ideals than an advocate.

I am working to shed all my narcissism and my self obsession, and to be better. In sobriety I have changed my life and my mind in real and important ways. I have also revealed the truth of my behaviors to myself and to others. I do not have words to express the patience and help my wife has offered me. I love my family with an intensity and realness that I have never felt before, and as a husband and a father I have been granted the opportunity to wake up each day with the intent to serve my family and the people around me, and to feel, for the first time that I have purpose.

The fact remains that none of us get to put a wall up between who we are and who we were. I need to earn forgiveness. Concepts like repentance, compassion, and love, are made real through actions, and it’s through my actions that I need to prove change. I hope I can show humility, and that the pain I have caused people can heal. I am not above reproach, and no one should be.

Jesse Lacey "

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By the sound of it, it's going to be Jesse Lacey on his own. His statement is fucking awful as well and rivals Kevin Spacey levels of deflection

 

From what Max Bemis has been tweeting, the scene Brand New grew up as a part of is going to be gutted

 

 

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On 11/12/2017 at 05:48, sonsism said:

"In an effort to address recent events and the public conversation currently happening, I feel it is important to make a clear and personal statement.

The actions of my past have caused pain and harm to a number of people, and I want to say that I am absolutely sorry. I do not stand in defense of myself nor do I forgive myself. I was selfish, narcissistic, and insensitive in my past, and there are a number of people who have had to shoulder the burden of my failures. I apologize for the hurt I have caused, and hope to be able to take the correct actions to earn forgiveness and trust.

Early on in my life, I developed a dependent and addictive relationship with sex. I was scared of it, ashamed, and unwilling or unable to admit it, and so it grew into a consistent and terrible problem. Years ago, after admitting my habits and cheating to my then soon to be wife, I began to approach my problem in a serious way. I entered professional treatment, both in group therapy and individual counseling, and revealed the realities of what a terrible place I had gotten to in my life, and what a terrible impact my actions had on people.

Lust, sex, love, and arousal were coping tools for me, and I returned to them repeatedly. I detached my own feelings and emotions from most of my sexual interactions. I hid, or lied about my behavior to escape reproach. I was a habitual cheater. I have been unfaithful in many, if not most of my relationships, including the relationship with my wife, who has with all of her might, patience, and grace, tried to hold our marriage together, despite having to endure the pain of the revelations of my past. It is heart wrenching that the most important changes in my life have come at the expense of others.

I am sorry for how I have hurt people, mistreated them, lied, and cheated. I am sorry for ignoring the way in which my position, status, and power as a member of a band affected the way people viewed me or their approach to their interactions with me. And I am sorry for how often I have not afforded women the respect, support, or honesty that they deserved, and which is their right. I believe in the equality and autonomy of all, but in my life I have been more of a detriment to these ideals than an advocate.

I am working to shed all my narcissism and my self obsession, and to be better. In sobriety I have changed my life and my mind in real and important ways. I have also revealed the truth of my behaviors to myself and to others. I do not have words to express the patience and help my wife has offered me. I love my family with an intensity and realness that I have never felt before, and as a husband and a father I have been granted the opportunity to wake up each day with the intent to serve my family and the people around me, and to feel, for the first time that I have purpose.

The fact remains that none of us get to put a wall up between who we are and who we were. I need to earn forgiveness. Concepts like repentance, compassion, and love, are made real through actions, and it’s through my actions that I need to prove change. I hope I can show humility, and that the pain I have caused people can heal. I am not above reproach, and no one should be.

Jesse Lacey "

That's abhorrent.  A manipulative list of excuses intended to distance himself of blame.  And no mention of the girl involved.

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