TheGoon Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Get it in the bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Just now, Sonsteam of 08 said: That's still quite reasonable to be fair. Though still 500(ish) short of what I'd have down as an average for you lot? For a Cup game it's probably around 200 less than if it was on a Saturday, plus a slightly smaller away support because of the state Airdrie are in. The home support is by in large consistent regardless but we are yet to face a colt team to put that theory into practice. Absolute minter for Celtic Colts to be sworded by last year's Queens Under 20s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sonsteam of 08 said: That's still quite reasonable to be fair. Though still 500(ish) short of what I'd have down as an average for you lot? It is about average for midweek cup games in the early stages of this and the League Cup. Got 1,036 v Airdrie last season in the Betfred midweek and 1,055 v East Kilbride this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Jeff Stelling there "If you're wondering what these scores are by the way, it's the Scottish Challenge Cup...." May as well have said, just ignore this shite Jjbj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 On 14/08/2017 at 07:30, Hampden Diehard said: The top division sides don't take their participation seriously enough to play at their home park. Poor stuff. Hamilton do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 How many "on-loan" players played for their parent clubs tonight, instead of their loan club? Andrew Irving (Berwick, played for Hearts U20) Calumn Morrison (Stirling, played for Hearts U20) Harry Paton (Stenny, played for Hearts U20) Ben Stirling (Cowdenbeath, played for Hibs U20) Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 4 hours ago, StewartyMac said: I prefer to make my own mind up rather than be a sheep, but thanks. There was some merit in the idea, but the implementation was poor and it was very poorly received, and still is. Translation: Everyone that said it was a farce last season was 100% right. Also, there was no merit in the idea, even if you buy the ridiculous notion that it was designed to improve young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Incidentally the 4th lowest verifiable Dundee Utd home crowd since the war tonight, despite it being against an actual club. Surpassed only by:* 1,200 v East Stirlingshire on Saturday 22nd December 1956 (severe fog and gloom) * 1,302 v Falkirk on Wednesday 21st November 1973 * 1,437 v Morton on Friday 10th May 1974 (last game of season moved to avoid Scotland international) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Sloop John B said: Absolute minter for Celtic Colts to be sworded by last year's Queens Under 20s To be fair only two of last years 20s played, one of whom is the overage Scott Hooper & the other got a hat trick. Four more on the bench though in Atkinson, Brannan, Sonkur and Moxon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Some big crowds tonight according to SPFL website! Everyone buzzing for this competition! Dundee United's lowest crowd in over 40 years still the highest of the night! Aberdeen U20 1-0 St Johnstone U20 - 155 Albion Rovers 0-0 Spartans (Albion win 5-4 on penalties) - 155 Annan Athletic 3-1 Celtic U20 - 278 Buckie Thistle 2-1 Brechin City - 453 Clyde 2-3 Stranraer (AET) - 319 Dundee United 2-0 Cowdenbeath - 1,655 Dunfermline 2-0 Arbroath - 1,462 East Fife 0-2 Peterhead - 333 Formartine 2-3 Hearts (AET) - 200 Hamilton U20 1-0 Edinburgh City - 153 Hibernian U20 1-2 Elgin City - 387 Kilmarnock U20 0-2 Berwick - No crowd figure Morton 0-2 Livingston - 1,036 Partick Thistle U20 6-1 Stirling Uni - No crowd figure Queen of the South 4-0 Airdrie - 1,012 Raith Rovers 3-0 Brora Rangers - 971 Ross County U20 2-1 Forfar - No crowd figure St Mirren 2-1 East Kilbride - 1,357 Stenhousemuir 0-2 Cove Rangers - 169 Stirling Albion 1-3 Montrose - 413 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said: Kilmarnock U20 0-2 Berwick - No crowd figurePartick Thistle U20 6-1 Stirling Uni - No crowd figure Ross County U20 2-1 Forfar - No crowd figure 190 being quoted for that albeit not on SPFL website yet. Cannot imagine there was a big attendance at Kilmarnock "B" v Berwick (I wasn't there unsurprisingly). Ross County got 350 v Brora last season, but would be surprised if they got as many this time. Interestingly, the average attendance in the 26 ties which comprised R1 & R2 last season was 333 and there were 10 ties under 350, 8 under 250 and 3 under 150. Last night there were 20 ties (remaining 4 due tonight) this round representing a combination of the previous 2, with an average of 571, but of course Championship clubs were involved whereas previously they joined in R3. Excluding ties where Championship clubs were at home the average has fallen to 289 and may well fall further, if/when Killie "B" and Ross County "B" figures come in. There were 9 ties under 350 and 6 under 250 - 3 scraping over 150 - again without knowing that pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Berk Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 hours ago, StewartyMac said: Unlike most others, I gave the new format a chance before giving any firm opinion of it. Now that we're in the second year, the inclusion of the Colt teams is an experiment that's largely failed, and their continued inclusion isn't good for the tournament. On the other hand, the inclusion of the Welsh and Irish teams has been a great success, and they've made it better this year by bringing them in earlier. This. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 hours ago, mikedafc said: This competition would be ok if it wasn't for the Colt teams. Their inclusion makes a mockery of the competition. Annan beat Celtic U20s for eff sake. Get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 How did the Colts do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Incidentally the 4th lowest verifiable Dundee Utd home crowd since the war tonight, despite it being against an actual club. Surpassed only by: * 1,200 v East Stirlingshire on Saturday 22nd December 1956 (severe fog and gloom) * 1,302 v Falkirk on Wednesday 21st November 1973 * 1,437 v Morton on Friday 10th May 1974 (last game of season moved to avoid Scotland international) I'm guessing that maybe the Falkirk game would have been during the energy crisis and so would have to have been played during the working day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It fell before the "Three Day Week" which ran from Jan to Mar 1974, so I wondered if it was just coincidence: but infact due to the OPEC crisis which preceded it I see the government banned floodlights the week before. It'd been abandoned due to fog on Sat 3rd Nov, and so had to be rearranged at 2:15pm on Wednesday 21st. Unsurprisingly this and travel problems would badly hurt the crowd. Three League Cup QF 2nd legs also got low crowds (Aberdeen-Celtic 2,821 15,500; Clyde-Dundee 4,609; Hibs-Rangers 5,287 19,425) while Albion Rovers and Killie swapped-out an adjacent league game and got 295! EDIT: Actually to illustrate the difference 3 days later at Rugby Park a crowd of 5,287 watched the League Cup QF - 18 times the crowd 3 days before ! Last night therefore seems to be Utd's lowest crowd since the defeat of fascism without extenuating circumstances... despite being the holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I pine for the days when 4,609 at Clyde could be considered "a low crowd". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: It fell before the "Three Day Week" which ran from Jan to Mar 1974, so I wondered if it was just coincidence: but infact due to the OPEC crisis which preceded it I see the government banned floodlights the week before. It'd been abandoned due to fog on Sat 3rd Nov, and so had to be rearranged at 2:15pm on Wednesday 21st. Unsurprisingly this and travel problems would badly hurt the crowd. Three League Cup QF 2nd legs also got low crowds (Aberdeen-Celtic 2,821; Clyde-Dundee 4,609; Hibs-Rangers 5,287) while Albion Rovers and Killie swapped-out an adjacent league game and got 295! EDIT: Actually to illustrate the difference 3 days later at Rugby Park a crowd of 5,287 watched the League Cup QF - 18 times the crowd 3 days before ! Last night therefore seems to be Utd's lowest crowd since the defeat of fascism without extenuating circumstances... despite being the holders. I was at Aberdeen that day. A Wednesday afternoon with a 1.30pm kickoff, in the Beach End with the new wooden benches. Was there really only 2800 there. Was it a draw? Can't really remember much other than my mother died the day before. Edited, it was 0-0 and there was 16,000 there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Sorry to hear that. To save time I cheated and took the crowd from the database on the LondonHearts website but it's wrong: AFC Heritage says 15,500 which is actually very respectable in the circumstances. Similarly the Hibs-Rangers crowd was actually 19,425... Figures for Dundee Utd-Falkirk, Clyde-Dundee (given in some sources as a round 5,000) and Killie-Albion games are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I did wonder HibeeJibee, although it was a smallish crowd, it wasn't that small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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