Glenconner Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'd say using the fact that Mundell's father had recently come out as gay to have a go at him is homophobic beyond doubt. I'm sure the court will agree. Campbell making this out as a campaign for justice, and begging money off his blinkered supporters to pursue it, is just pathetic. Considering the Tories (and the general Labour Movement) were happy for gay men to be given electric shock treatment in Barlinnie within the life time of posters on here, it's effin hypocritical of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Shades75 said: In what way did he have a go at Mundell's father for his homosexuality? "Embracing homosexuality" doesn't seem like an insult to me. He also didn't beg money off his blinkered supporters. He, first of all, asked them whether or not he should take court action - they voted that he should. He then asked them how it should be funded and they voted in majority to use crowdfunding. Of course they did. It's like a cult. Campbell's got previous for anti LGBT stuff, slagging off Chelsea Manning while in solitary in a military prison for one. Just because you agree with someone's politics doesn't mean you have to defend everything they say. P.S. Using his father's sexuality to slag off his son I doubt was appreciated by the father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Of course they did. It's like a cult. Campbell's got previous for anti LGBT stuff, slagging off Chelsea Manning while in solitary in a military prison for one. Just because you agree with someone's politics doesn't mean you have to defend everything they say. I'm not defending everything he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Of course they did. It's like a cult. Campbell's got previous for anti LGBT stuff, slagging off Chelsea Manning while in solitary in a military prison for one. Just because you agree with someone's politics doesn't mean you have to defend everything they say. P.S. Using his father's sexuality to slag off his son I doubt was appreciated by the father. We're still not getting to the part where he indicates that being a homosexual is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Shades75 said: We're still not getting to the part where he indicates that being a homosexual is bad. Enoch Powell never said that black people were bad in his "Rivers of Blood" speech. Campbell used the fact that Mundell's dad had come out to have a go at his son. It couldn't be clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: I can't believe that if a unionist had said this about an SNP minister whose father had recently come out you wouldn't have called it homophobic. Never had you down for a mentalist SJW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I remember ten years ago the press hounded Gordon Brown to try and appear electable to The Youth by claiming he listened to the Arctic Monkeys. Funny how times change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I honestly don't want to be a dick here but you really need to read the transcript of that speech if you don't think that Powell made it crystal clear, many times in many different ways what he meant. This - " I shan't be satisfied till I have seen them all settled overseas. In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man." makes it particularly clear what he wanted and why. I don't think he actually said "rivers of blood" either, but I could be wrong. I'm going to bow out now. I think that the court case will need to decide on whether the tweet is homophobic or not. I am happy to accept that court's verdict. If it decides that the tweet is homophobic then I'll reconsider my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, itzdrk said: Never had you down for a mentalist SJW Wouldn't have raised it if he wasn't begging money off people to sue someone who called him out on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Just now, welshbairn said: Wouldn't have raised it if he wasn't begging money off people to sue someone who called him out on it. Would save all his fans a lot of money if he just made a proper homophobic insult. Would do the independence campaign well down the line too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 It is undoubtedly a pretty crass thing to say, but I really don't think that it is homophobic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 It is undoubtedly a pretty crass thing to say, but I really don't think that it is homophobic. I'd agree with that. 'Give me money so I can defend being slightly less of a c**t than I'm accused of being' seems to be a pretty odd campaign to me, but fools and their money etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Presumably he's no longer a member of the General Dental Council and so has to cling to the taxpayers' handouts as a desperate, venal, grasping, incompetent, gravy-train-riding Blairite p***k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Presumably he's no longer a member of the General Dental Council and so has to cling to the taxpayers' handouts as a desperate, venal, grasping, incompetent, gravy-train-riding Blairite p***k. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Looking back I sort of admired Labour's position on Brexit. What is it? Whatever you want it to be. If you thought we should definitely leave then Labour's position seemed in sync with that. If you thought we should definitely not leave then Labour's position seemed in sync with that too. Personally I am concerned that Jeremy Corbyn never changes his opinion on anything. I think that is a really bad place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 On 28/07/2017 at 16:15, DublinMagyar said: Who? Sarwar - posted in the wrong thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 On 29/07/2017 at 00:25, Fullerene said: Looking back I sort of admired Labour's position on Brexit. What is it? Whatever you want it to be. If you thought we should definitely leave then Labour's position seemed in sync with that. If you thought we should definitely not leave then Labour's position seemed in sync with that too. Personally I am concerned that Jeremy Corbyn never changes his opinion on anything. I think that is a really bad place to be. He might not officially change but he certainly forgets about them. Just look at his stance on the Whip, Trident or the House of Lords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I'm fairly sure a homophobe wouldn't suggest someone should embrace homosexuality at all, let alone sooner!? And Dugdale has previous for lowering the offended bar having recently accused a newspaper of sexism because it claimed Theresa May was digging her heels in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Ned Nederlander said: I'm fairly sure a homophobe wouldn't suggest someone should embrace homosexuality at all, let alone sooner!? You must have noticed he was taking the pish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 27/07/2017 at 20:35, welshbairn said: Enoch Powell never said that black people were bad in his "Rivers of Blood" speech. Campbell used the fact that Mundell's dad had come out to have a go at his son. It couldn't be clearer. No, homophobia, not whatever it is you're complaining about. homophobia ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪə,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪə/ noun noun: homophobia dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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