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wastecoatwilly

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In the past couple of weeks, the compliance officer has been contacted to ensure that, when deliberating over this issue, he has full access not only to the information provided by the SFA from within their files, which should include all correspondence from RFC PLC (In Liquidation), Duff & Phelps and of course Celtic PLC, but also to the correspondence between the Res 12 solicitors and the SFA Corporate Compliance officer and the same solicitor and UEFA.

“As we understand it, no proper review is possible without looking at all of this information and correspondence. Further, upon reviewing the information in detail, it is very hard to conclude that the Chief Executive of the SFA has given several different explanations as to when, how, and why the licence was granted and why the Rangers of the time remained compliant with UEFA regulations at different dates.

Mr Regan has, on various occasions, explained that:

1. The Licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that the wee tax bill was only a provisional debt as at that date.

2. The licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a potential tax bill but not was not yet “due” in terms of the Inland Revenue regulations.

3. The Licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a tax bill due as at that date but that it was not overdue in terms of the UEFA regulations.

4. The licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a tax bill due as at that date but that RFC PLC (In Liquidation) had secured an agreement with HMRC that payment of the debt would be postponed and paid over an agreed period of time. It is essential in terms of UEFA legislation that any such agreement is in writing.

5. That the licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a Tax bill due as at that date but the tax bill concerned was the subject of an appeal to the first tier tribunal by RFC PLC (In liquidation) which appeal renders the bill as not technically due as at the date of granting.

It seems very clear that Rangers (IL) were awarded a place in the Champions League qualifiers that wasn’t permitted.

While they will no doubt claim that lessons have been learned and new processes put in place it’s likely that Celtic will require more than that after missing out on a potential £20m windfall- that would also have given every SPL club a bonus payout.

With Andrew Dickson, Paul Murray, Dave King and Alastair Johnston all back involved in Scottish football it would seem that 10 year bans should be the minimum punishment for directors and office holders who effectively cheated every club in Scottish football.
The current position is that everyone is waiting on the review of the UEFA Licence situation (application, review of application, award of licence, submission to UEFA, compliance and review of licence conditions and subsequent review of information supporting compliance and the handling of that info by The SFA and so on) by Mr McGlennan the compliance officer.

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3 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said:

In the past couple of weeks, the compliance officer has been contacted to ensure that, when deliberating over this issue, he has full access not only to the information provided by the SFA from within their files, which should include all correspondence from RFC PLC (In Liquidation), Duff & Phelps and of course Celtic PLC, but also to the correspondence between the Res 12 solicitors and the SFA Corporate Compliance officer and the same solicitor and UEFA.

“As we understand it, no proper review is possible without looking at all of this information and correspondence. Further, upon reviewing the information in detail, it is very hard to conclude that the Chief Executive of the SFA has given several different explanations as to when, how, and why the licence was granted and why the Rangers of the time remained compliant with UEFA regulations at different dates.

Mr Regan has, on various occasions, explained that:

1. The Licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that the wee tax bill was only a provisional debt as at that date.

2. The licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a potential tax bill but not was not yet “due” in terms of the Inland Revenue regulations.

3. The Licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a tax bill due as at that date but that it was not overdue in terms of the UEFA regulations.

4. The licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a tax bill due as at that date but that RFC PLC (In Liquidation) had secured an agreement with HMRC that payment of the debt would be postponed and paid over an agreed period of time. It is essential in terms of UEFA legislation that any such agreement is in writing.

5. That the licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a Tax bill due as at that date but the tax bill concerned was the subject of an appeal to the first tier tribunal by RFC PLC (In liquidation) which appeal renders the bill as not technically due as at the date of granting.

It seems very clear that Rangers (IL) were awarded a place in the Champions League qualifiers that wasn’t permitted.

While they will no doubt claim that lessons have been learned and new processes put in place it’s likely that Celtic will require more than that after missing out on a potential £20m windfall- that would also have given every SPL club a bonus payout.

With Andrew Dickson, Paul Murray, Dave King and Alastair Johnston all back involved in Scottish football it would seem that 10 year bans should be the minimum punishment for directors and office holders who effectively cheated every club in Scottish football.

Not a fucking peep in the media about this. *Sweep sweep*

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Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo

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18 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said:

In the past couple of weeks, the compliance officer has been contacted to ensure that, when deliberating over this issue, he has full access not only to the information provided by the SFA from within their files, which should include all correspondence from RFC PLC (In Liquidation), Duff & Phelps and of course Celtic PLC, but also to the correspondence between the Res 12 solicitors and the SFA Corporate Compliance officer and the same solicitor and UEFA.

“As we understand it, no proper review is possible without looking at all of this information and correspondence. Further, upon reviewing the information in detail, it is very hard to conclude that the Chief Executive of the SFA has given several different explanations as to when, how, and why the licence was granted and why the Rangers of the time remained compliant with UEFA regulations at different dates.

Mr Regan has, on various occasions, explained that:

1. The Licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that the wee tax bill was only a provisional debt as at that date.

2. The licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a potential tax bill but not was not yet “due” in terms of the Inland Revenue regulations.

3. The Licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a tax bill due as at that date but that it was not overdue in terms of the UEFA regulations.

4. The licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a tax bill due as at that date but that RFC PLC (In Liquidation) had secured an agreement with HMRC that payment of the debt would be postponed and paid over an agreed period of time. It is essential in terms of UEFA legislation that any such agreement is in writing.

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5. That the licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a Tax bill due as at that date but the tax bill concerned was the subject of an appeal to the first tier tribunal by RFC PLC (In liquidation) which appeal renders the bill as not technically due as at the date of granting.

It seems very clear that Rangers (IL) were awarded a place in the Champions League qualifiers that wasn’t permitted.

While they will no doubt claim that lessons have been learned and new processes put in place it’s likely that Celtic will require more than that after missing out on a potential £20m windfall- that would also have given every SPL club a bonus payout.

With Andrew Dickson, Paul Murray, Dave King and Alastair Johnston all back involved in Scottish football it would seem that 10 year bans should be the minimum punishment for directors and office holders who effectively cheated every club in Scottish football.
The current position is that everyone is waiting on the review of the UEFA Licence situation (application, review of application, award of licence, submission to UEFA, compliance and review of licence conditions and subsequent review of information supporting compliance and the handling of that info by The SFA and so on) by Mr McGlennan the compliance officer.

Seriously, I'm not sure how the powers that be could possibly take a disputed tax bill into account? Are you saying that any club/company should be liable for a tax bill that they don't think they are liable for? Even the courts were in their favour at that point. This also suggests that you aren't allowed to be a creditor of the HMRC at any point which is just fucking bonkers.

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5. That the licence was granted as at 31st March 2011 on the basis that there was a Tax bill due as at that date but the tax bill concerned was the subject of an appeal to the first tier tribunal by RFC PLC (In liquidation) which appeal renders the bill as not technically due as at the date of granting.

What the f**k is that meant to mean? Read those words. Utter, utter word salad. It's absolute fucking nonsense.

Unless I'm missing something here, which I'm sure someone will provide.

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wastecoatwilly

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11 hours ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said:

Seriously, I'm not sure how the powers that be could possibly take a disputed tax bill into account? Are you saying that any club/company should be liable for a tax bill that they don't think they are liable for? Even the courts were in their favour at that point. This also suggests that you aren't allowed to be a creditor of the HMRC at any point which is just fucking bonkers.

For example:

What the f**k is that meant to mean? Read those words. Utter, utter word salad. It's absolute fucking nonsense.

Unless I'm missing something here, which I'm sure someone will provide.

These 5 quotes are from Mr Regan our SFA chief executive you don't seem to be up to speed with resolution 12.
Rangers where granted a licence to play in Europe in 2011 by the SFA going against UEFA criteria because of a tax bill that was over due. 

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20 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said:

Hypothetical question oddball,if the SFA had refused rangers to play in Europe that season we mite be looking at a different scenario.

^^The worst "If yer aunty had baws" statement ever.  Your "Hypothetical question" isn't even a question. 

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