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Davidson and the Tories are ridiculous with their sneering, delusions of grandeur and smugness. Thankfully Surgeon is the master at serving up big servings of telt week after week.


Sturgeon is so good that less and less people are voting for her and her party.
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Sturgeon is so good that less and less people are voting for her and her party.


Too many stupid and lazy people who do no research and form their opinions from The Daily Heil, Express, Hootsman and Record or the cafeteria at work imho.

Not to mention the bigots who base their views purely on a flag.......
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1 hour ago, Glen Sannox said:

 


Sturgeon is so good that less and less people are voting for her and her party.

 

1) Use grammatically correct English please, minterboy (fewer & fewer)

2) Personal results: Scottish Parliament election, 2011: Glasgow Southside: Nicola Sturgeon 12,306 votes (54%) Scottish Parliament election, 2016: Glasgow Southside: Nicola Sturgeon 15,287 votes (61.4%)

3) Party results: Scottish Parliament election 2011: SNP total constituency votes 902,915 Scottish Parliament  election 2016: SNP total constituency votes 1,059,897 Scottish Parliament election 2011: SNP total regional  votes 876,421 Scottish Parliament  election 2016: SNP total regional votes 953,587

That's 3 major errors in 16 words. Par for the course for you.

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5 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

1) Use grammatically correct English please, minterboy (fewer & fewer)

2) Personal results: Scottish Parliament election, 2011: Glasgow Southside: Nicola Sturgeon 12,306 votes (54%) Scottish Parliament election, 2016: Glasgow Southside: Nicola Sturgeon 15,287 votes (61.4%)

3) Party results: Scottish Parliament election 2011: SNP total constituency votes 902,915 Scottish Parliament  election 2016: SNP total constituency votes 1,059,897 Scottish Parliament election 2011: SNP total regional  votes 876,421 Scottish Parliament  election 2016: SNP total regional votes 953,587

That's 3 major errors in 16 words. Par for the course for you.

He's obviously improving.

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1) Use grammatically correct English please, minterboy (fewer & fewer)
2) Personal results: Scottish Parliament election, 2011: Glasgow Southside: Nicola Sturgeon 12,306 votes (54%) Scottish Parliament election, 2016: Glasgow Southside: Nicola Sturgeon 15,287 votes (61.4%)
3) Party results: Scottish Parliament election 2011: SNP total constituency votes 902,915 Scottish Parliament  election 2016: SNP total constituency votes 1,059,897 Scottish Parliament election 2011: SNP total regional  votes 876,421 Scottish Parliament  election 2016: SNP total regional votes 953,587
That's 3 major errors in 16 words. Par for the course for you.


Minter telt
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18 hours ago, lichtgilphead said:

1) Use grammatically correct English please, minterboy (fewer & fewer)

2) Personal results: Scottish Parliament election, 2011: Glasgow Southside: Nicola Sturgeon 12,306 votes (54%) Scottish Parliament election, 2016: Glasgow Southside: Nicola Sturgeon 15,287 votes (61.4%)

3) Party results: Scottish Parliament election 2011: SNP total constituency votes 902,915 Scottish Parliament  election 2016: SNP total constituency votes 1,059,897 Scottish Parliament election 2011: SNP total regional  votes 876,421 Scottish Parliament  election 2016: SNP total regional votes 953,587

That's 3 major errors in 16 words. Par for the course for you.

A tad selective there, not using the latest available results.   In terms of the last election, there were indeed less people voting for the SNP, significantly less.  So your 3) above would be:

General Election 2015: SNP Total Votes 1,454,436
General Election 2017: SNP Total Votes 977,569

The question is really if this is a continuing trend or not but I don't think that it is disputable that the SNP are less popular than they were in the aftermath of the referendum.

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A tad selective there, not using the latest available results.   In terms of the last election, there were indeed less people voting for the SNP, significantly less.  So your 3) above would be:
General Election 2015: SNP Total Votes 1,454,436
General Election 2017: SNP Total Votes 977,569
The question is really if this is a continuing trend or not but I don't think that it is disputable that the SNP are less popular than they were in the aftermath of the referendum.


An excellent point, with only one huge flaw.

If you look at the context, I'm not being selective at all. The thread title is 'FMQ's' and as far as I recall, there are no FMQ's at the Westminster parliament.

Even Glen Minter will understand this, as his original comment specifically related to a point about Ruth Davidson, who has never been elected to Westminster.

But hey, irrelevant tosh is always part off the debate on P'n'B, especially when you're involved [emoji1]
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45 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

 


An excellent point, with only one huge flaw.

If you look at the context, I'm not being selective at all. The thread title is 'FMQ's' and as far as I recall, there are no FMQ's at the Westminster parliament.

Even Glen Minter will understand this, as his original comment specifically related to a point about Ruth Davidson, who has never been elected to Westminster.

But hey, irrelevant tosh is always part off the debate on P'n'B, especially when you're involved emoji1.png

Yep dropping 1/2m votes in the last election = irrelevant tosh. :whistle  You must be Peter Murrell if you are tended to ignore it.

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3 minutes ago, strichener said:

Yep dropping 1/2m votes in the last election = irrelevant tosh. :whistle  You must be Peter Murrell if you are tended to ignore it.

Well, who's quoting selectively now?

Let's look at trends this century and put your isolated example in context:

Scottish Parliament - SNP constituency vote (regional vote)

2003 - 449,476 (399659): 2007 - 644,227 (633,401): 2011 - 902,915 (876,421): 2016 - 1,059,857 (953,587)

An increase on both measures election on election on election on election

European Parliament - SNP total vote

2004 - 231,505: 2009 - 321,007: 2014 - 389, 503

An election on election on election increase

Scottish Council SNP First Preferences (FPTP in 2003)

2003 - 451,660: 2007: 585,885: 2012 - 503,233: 2017 - 610,454 

All increases again, apart from a slight drop between 2007 & 2012 (and we all know who had an overall majority in 2012)

UK General Elections - SNP votes

2001 - 464,314: 2005 - 412,267: 2010 - 491,386: 2015 - 1,454,436: 2017: 977,569

And there's your 1/2m loss. Still, I'm consoled by the fact that 977,569 is effectively double the SNP vote in 2001, 2005 and 2010

Conclusion

Since the turn of the century, the SNP have contested 16 Scotland-wide elections. They have increased their vote on the previous election in 13 of them.

3 decreases in 16 is a record that any other political party would be delighted with.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with the overall direction of travel...

Tick tock.

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Well, who's quoting selectively now?
Let's look at trends this century and put your isolated example in context:
Scottish Parliament - SNP constituency vote (regional vote)
2003 - 449,476 (399659): 2007 - 644,227 (633,401): 2011 - 902,915 (876,421): 2016 - 1,059,857 (953,587)
An increase on both measures election on election on election on election
European Parliament - SNP total vote
2004 - 231,505: 2009 - 321,007: 2014 - 389, 503
An election on election on election increase
Scottish Council SNP First Preferences (FPTP in 2003)
2003 - 451,660: 2007: 585,885: 2012 - 503,233: 2017 - 610,454 
All increases again, apart from a slight drop between 2007 & 2012 (and we all know who had an overall majority in 2012)
UK General Elections - SNP votes
2001 - 464,314: 2005 - 412,267: 2010 - 491,386: 2015 - 1,454,436: 2017: 977,569
And there's your 1/2m loss. Still, I'm consoled by the fact that 977,569 is effectively double the SNP vote in 2001, 2005 and 2010
Conclusion
Since the turn of the century, the SNP have contested 16 Scotland-wide elections. They have increased their vote on the previous election in 13 of them.
3 decreases in 16 is a record that any other political party would be delighted with.
All in all, I'm pretty happy with the overall direction of travel...
Tick tock.


And a 46% survation poll. All that shite and it's still holding up.
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4 hours ago, strichener said:

Yep dropping 1/2m votes in the last election = irrelevant tosh. :whistle  You must be Peter Murrell if you are tended to ignore it.

Regression to the mean.

If I shoot at a target 20 times and they are all miles away, and if my 21st shot hits the bullseye, if my 22nd shot hits just outside the bullseye but within the other 20 then my 22nd shot is not a failure - it is a success.  The 22nd shot must be measured against the aggregate of the other 21 shots and not only the preceding.

In a dry statistical analysis, and your post gave nothing more, the 22nd shot is a roaring success.

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18 hours ago, lichtgilphead said:

Well, who's quoting selectively now?

Let's look at trends this century and put your isolated example in context:

Scottish Parliament - SNP constituency vote (regional vote)

2003 - 449,476 (399659): 2007 - 644,227 (633,401): 2011 - 902,915 (876,421): 2016 - 1,059,857 (953,587)

An increase on both measures election on election on election on election

European Parliament - SNP total vote

2004 - 231,505: 2009 - 321,007: 2014 - 389, 503

An election on election on election increase

Scottish Council SNP First Preferences (FPTP in 2003)

2003 - 451,660: 2007: 585,885: 2012 - 503,233: 2017 - 610,454 

All increases again, apart from a slight drop between 2007 & 2012 (and we all know who had an overall majority in 2012)

UK General Elections - SNP votes

2001 - 464,314: 2005 - 412,267: 2010 - 491,386: 2015 - 1,454,436: 2017: 977,569

And there's your 1/2m loss. Still, I'm consoled by the fact that 977,569 is effectively double the SNP vote in 2001, 2005 and 2010

Conclusion

Since the turn of the century, the SNP have contested 16 Scotland-wide elections. They have increased their vote on the previous election in 13 of them.

3 decreases in 16 is a record that any other political party would be delighted with.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with the overall direction of travel...

Tick tock.

I quoted based on the context of your reply.  If you want to stick to your own argument then anything pre-Sturgeon is irrelevant.

Regardless, I am sure the original poster will come back on and expand on his post on how he sees less people voting for Sturgeon and her party.

19 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said:

 


And a 46% survation poll. All that shite and it's still holding up.

 

Is this the same poll that indicates a loss of an Indy majority in Holyrood?

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