GordonS

My daft laddie Junior football questions

183 posts in this topic

Coming from the pie and bov professional thread killer


That would be you trawler boy.
You're in the net and close to being hauled in.
Why are the Cabes now called the Scabs and where is PC Cabe these days?
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Glenconner said:

Franky, have you posted this on another site years ago?Did a bit of googling about Junior football in Edinburgh and on an old Scottish League site was near enough the exact same question.......in 2007.

I've only really started getting into the Juniors about 5 years ago so not me. Always wondered why given the areas around Edinburgh, particularly Midlothian, West Lothian are 99% Junior. Always amazes me that up until a couple of seasons ago there were Aberdeen, Dundee, Glasgow, Perth, Larkhall and Forfar derbies but not Edinburgh.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 hours ago, cowdenbeath said:

Think it was 1930 the East of Scotland League was formed so I suppose there was an alternative for non league sides to join which they did and in general the non leaguers in the City tended to go down that route as you pointed out there was a 30 year gab between Edinburgh City and Edinburgh Utd when there was no junior side and a further 31 before Craigroyston joined them.

The club in Edinburgh with the oldest Junior connection is Civil Service Strollers. The club was formed as the 2nd XI of Edinburgh Civil Service in 1903 but became an independent club in 1908 and were a Junior club until 1923 when they became Senior and moved into the East of Scotland Football League. Apart from a short stay in the Edinburgh & District League (Seniors) they remained there until moving into the Lowland League.

The current Edinburgh United are the longest-serving Junior club at 32 years. Edinburgh Emmet survived for 40 years but only the last 12 years as Juniors. Edinburgh Hawthorn managed 30 years. The first of the two Edinburgh Rentons existed for 27 years. Rosebery ran for 24 years.

The outbreak of the Great War probably led to the demise of Granton Oakvale and Niddrie Bluebell when they were not re-formed after the end of hostilities.

In the period between the two World Wars when perhaps Junior football was its peak there were only five Edinburgh Junior clubs for varying periods:

Civil Service Strollers (East of Scotland Junior Football League)

Edinburgh Emmet (Lothian Junior Football League & East of Scotland Junior Football League)

Edinburgh Renton (Lothian Junior Football League)

Heart of Midlothian Tynecastle XI (Lothian Junior Football League - 1921/22 only )

Edinburgh Rosebery (East of Scotland Junior Football League 1921/22 & 1922/23 only)

However, in the Senior East of Scotland and Edinburgh & District Football Leagues Edinburgh had Clerwood Amateurs, Corstorphine, Edinburgh City, Murrayfield, University of Edinburgh and Civil Service Strollers. 

While this probably shows how Senior non-league football developed ahead of Junior football it does not fully explain the very low number of Junior clubs in the city. 

6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes a good point. Paisley has had lots of short-lived Junior clubs but few made it into the 20th Century.  Inkerman Rangers and Southside managed it but few others. There were several Junior teams at different times linked to St Mirren,  Abercorn and major employers (Coats, Coats & Smith's Limited & Brown's Ferguslie).  Whitehaugh Thistle turned Junior in 1908 and survived until 1925.

 

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, wingnut said:

I've been at at 3 or 4 Talbot games and I've heard it,ask AM he'll tell ye.

I'm no a Talbot hater or jealous of their success,it is what it is and fair play tae them as a club.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am aged 55 and been watching junior football since I was at Primary school. I have been to dozens of Ladeside v Talbot games and have got to say have never heard this being sung. Admittedly I have been out of the country for the last 3 years so maybe it has just started since then. No doubt Talbot have a considerable support but can hardly remember much singing coming from them at Valefield, Beechwood, Somerset or Rugby Park

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I am aged 55 and been watching junior football since I was at Primary school. I have been to dozens of Ladeside v Talbot games and have got to say have never heard this being sung. Admittedly I have been out of the country for the last 3 years so maybe it has just started since then. No doubt Talbot have a considerable support but can hardly remember much singing coming from them at Valefield, Beechwood, Somerset or Rugby Park


I can hardly remember any singing coming from your end. Maybe that's because you lot only sing when you win.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 hours ago, wingnut said:

I've been at at 3 or 4 Talbot games and I've heard it,ask AM he'll tell ye.

You sure have wingnut and you sat with me lapping it up when Talbot beat Lithgy at Livingston :thumsup2

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Some of the Junior names are magical or maybe it's just the add on's for example Ardrossan Winton Rovers. Once your hear a name like that you never forget it. Kirkintilloch Rob Roy is another, you couldn't buy a name like that.

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Jesus Christ guys the OP asked a question and I answered that question with a quote from a website.

If you don't like Talbot fair enough but if any body claims they haven't heard or know of the chant you are living in a bubble or not a Junior fan. 

EPPP

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Must be living in a bubble then. Apologies for bring honest!!!

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Take the add on's to the names were to differentiate in the beginning from teams in the same town or villiage. Then there's the name's like Benburb, Vale of Clyde or Royal Albert that don't seem to have any local connection whatsoever.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Some of the Junior names are magical or maybe it's just the add on's for example Ardrossan Winton Rovers. Once your hear a name like that you never forget it. Kirkintilloch Rob Roy is another, you couldn't buy a name like that.


Craigmark Burntonians is a magical name too.
5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Quantum Leap said:

 


Craigmark Burntonians is a magical name too.emoji106.png

 

Anybody can add on United but only a wordsmith could get that passed at a meeting.

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Glenconner said:

Anybody can add on United but only a wordsmith could get that passed at a meeting.

Surely Glenbuck Cherrypickers was the finest ever Junior name

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Quantum Leap said:

 

You guys were robbed blind that day. Hope you all enjoyed it nonetheless, and have great memories - the game at Ross County is one of my best memories as a Rose fan, but we had that wonderful second goal to celebrate and left feeling that it was a fair result. 

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Glenconner said:

Some of the Junior names are magical or maybe it's just the add on's for example Ardrossan Winton Rovers. Once your hear a name like that you never forget it. Kirkintilloch Rob Roy is another, you couldn't buy a name like that.

Rose, Violet, Primrose, Talbot, Ladeside, Meadow, Victoria, Winton Rovers, Panmure, Swifts, Harp... 

It's in the senior game too - Hibernian, Heart of Midlothian, Thistle, Queen of the South, St Mirren and St Johnstone... Scottish football is full of romantic names, many with great stories behind them. So much better than the daft, butch names you get in other sports.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If I was German I would definitely support Wormatia Worms.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Glenconner said:

Some of the Junior names are magical or maybe it's just the add on's for example Ardrossan Winton Rovers. Once your hear a name like that you never forget it. Kirkintilloch Rob Roy is another, you couldn't buy a name like that.

Yes there are some terrific names in Junior football and all with a story behind them.

My favourite story is about the name “Royal Albert”. The Larkhall club have had “Royal” in its name 38 years before a certain club from Madrid. However, the name was used because the local pit owner had a ship of that name. When football in Hawick was getting back on its feet after the Second World War there was a Larkhall man (William Bunton) involved who suggested the new club adopt the name from his home town team. Motion carried! So today we have Hawick Royal Albert FC playing in the Lowland League. However there were other “Royal Alberts” in Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Maryhill and Darvel whose story is unknown.

However, the most poignant is Lochgelly Albert that took its name from the town on the Somme battlefield where many Fife men fell in the Great War.

Edited by bluedragon
3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.