sjc Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said: What do you want folk to do? There's been plenty of folk who have already stated they wont attend. That's quite literally the only viable and effective course of action. Even at that, I highly doubt it will have much impact, they don't really give a f**k if no one turns up such is their desperation to include Old Firm colt teams in every competition going. That would work but will they en mass refrain from attending though? The only time fans have stood together for the benefit of the game with 2012. The rest of the time decisions such as this are generally accepted for a few crumbs off the OF table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 That would work but will they en mass refrain from attending though? The only time fans have stood together for the benefit of the game with 2012. The rest of the time decisions such as this are generally accepted for a few crumbs off the OF table. The majority of our normal fans appear to be boycotting it. A handful of the cock measuring contest brigade are rolling out the usual "we're the best and most loyal fans ever and will never let down our team" shite. I'd imagine many other clubs will be facing a similar scenario but ultimately I'd expect attendances to be pretty woeful accross the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sonsteam of 08 said: I've written about it for the local paper, stuck out a host of tweets and ranted about it on our supporters' Facebook group. I'll be boycotting the game too (first home match I'll have missed through choice since November 2009). There's not much else I can do! I applaud you but the boycott will be your only genuinely effect discourse as your tweets and articles will be shot down by our wonderful SMSM as a "moon howler" or an "Internet bampot". It's ALL about the OF for them, our football authorities and sadly many in the boardrooms of our Clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I won't attend. It's all I can do. It won't make a difference - we will probably sell out the away side of the ground with Rangers fans so me not being there won't make a difference.But if enough home fans refuse to attend games featuring colt teams then perhaps we can send the message that we don't want them.I'd rather watch Dumbarton play a lowland league team than a colt team. The lowland league club have a proper reason for being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bring Back Paddy Flannery said: The majority of our normal fans appear to be boycotting it. A handful of the cock measuring contest brigade are rolling out the usual "we're the best and most loyal fans ever and will never let down our team" shite. I'd imagine many other clubs will be facing a similar scenario but ultimately I'd expect attendances to be pretty woeful accross the board. Therein lies the problem sadly. Hopefully you will succeed but given our Clubs collective silence over the authorities inability to apply the association laws evenly across ALL Clubs, I won't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, sjc said: I applaud you but the boycott will be your only genuinely effect discourse as your tweets and articles will be shot down by our wonderful SMSM as a "moon howler" or an "Internet bampot". It's ALL about the OF for them, our football authorities and sadly many in the boardrooms of our Clubs. DO YOO NOT WANT SCOTLAND TO WIN WURLD CUPS?????!!! Appears to be the most common response from the Facebook Da's. Honestly if you gave me the option of Scotland winning Qatar 2022, but having to watch Sons play Colt teams every second week, or Scotland never qualifying for a major tournament again, but U20s were kept out of the league, I'd choose the latter. I'm 20 though, so I've never actually seen us play at a major tournament, and generally care very little for the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sonsteam of 08 said: DO YOO NOT WANT SCOTLAND TO WIN WURLD CUPS?????!!! Appears to be the most common response from the Facebook Da's. Honestly if you gave me the option of Scotland winning Qatar 2022, but having to watch Sons play Colt teams every second week, or Scotland never qualifying for a major tournament again, but U20s were kept out of the league, I'd choose the latter. I'm 20 though, so I've never actually seen us play at a major tournament, and generally care very little for the national team. It's laughable that they actually think the issue is a lack of game time for Scottish youngsters when it's glaringly obvious that the coaching isn't good enough and we don't have enough of them of a good enough quality at all levels of the game from grassroots upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I'm sure ensuring that two less youngsters are able to play in these colt teams and will be replaced by a couple of duffers that cant get a game for their first teams is going to make all the difference when it comes to our international fortunes. Its time some of our clubs pulled out the whole thing or shafted them by putting out an u20's side against them thus negating the whole idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Looks like this thread was a waste of time. Rangers already have a pet team in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Bump. Any additions to c**t list since Project Brave is going through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I know there's a thread in the league two forum but given the Sunday Mail is reporting today that Rangers and Celtic colts will be in league two next season I thought it was worth bumping this for those who hadn't seen the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 According to today's Sunday Mail it looks like this issue is not going to go away quitely...... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/celtic-rangers-colt-teams-set-11886261 Time for everyone to start lobbying their clubs to preserve the democratic principle of one club, one team which has operated in Scottish League football since 1892. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Nowhereman said: I know there's a thread in the league two forum but given the Sunday Mail is reporting today that Rangers and Celtic colts will be in league two next season I thought it was worth bumping this for those who hadn't seen the story Jeez, like minds and all that - what timing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I love the secretive b*****dliness of the "7/10 clubs" line. Absolutely no reason for the papers not to state which clubs are in favour, unless they know there's overwhelming opposition from the customer base, and the clubs are hoping to push it through before their fans find out, in exchange for a wee bit of cash to renovate the boardroom lavvies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Email and phone your clubs. They only care about cash. If enough people make noises about withdrawing money if their clubs are in favour, it'll get voted down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 This should not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black and White Tragic Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Surely the way to solve the Scottish youth development issue would be for the “rich” teams to pay decent transfer fees to lower tier clubs, rather than snap them up for peanuts under the current arrangements, giving an incentive once again for development by lower league clubs. Using other teams as sparring partners so they can develop players and pay these teams a little cash to smooth over this dirty little arrangement isn’t going to solve much. It just means players that “make it” will be getting splinters in their arse at Ibrox or Parkhead. Or that they will head to the English leagues for astronomical transfers creating further disparity in the Scottish game with the big two getting even more of the wealth, whilst the others get strangled further. The product suffers in Scotland and the better players for the Scottish national team that Project Brave is meant to herald remains unproven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I've read nowhere that the 'colt' sides will have to be solely made up of Scottish players. Which, given the Project Brave argument put forward, must surely be compulsory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 If people feel strongly enough about this then the clubs will listen to the fans. They did with putting sevco into division 3, bar a few (yes QOTS, looking at you) and will again, the fans just have to voice what an utter farce this suggestion this is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazil85 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Confirmed Good Guys Arbroath Albion Rovers Dunfermline Athletic Clyde Queen of the South Cowdenbeath Would be good to hear an update if these clubs are still confirmed no to the idea. If so then only two more no votes would knock the idea out of the park. If they have changed to yes can only be because of the extra money bribe. Would think fan owned clubs (soon to be fan owned) like St Mirren, Stirling Albion, Clyde would all also have to be no based on supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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