edinabear Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, kleptomaniac said: That is huge news. Never thought the pyramid would be popular with so many junior clubs. This summer will be very interesting. Who knows how the SJFA and the LL, EofS and SofS resolve this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I'm pretty sure the SJFA has already accepted in principle that the HL/LL boundary will be moved from the Tay to the Esk Would make sense and I’ve seen it discussed as if the HL/LL boundary is along the Esk but as it stands the Tay boundary is in place, which must make it difficult for clubs in Dundee and Angus who may be considering their options. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Either sooner or prior to the AGM. Is that not the same thing ?That could be in June. Ffs jobbystone needs to move a tad quicker surely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Weird phrasing. Maybe "sooner" means "immediately" here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, kleptomaniac said: Excellent. The baw is now with the Sfa. About time they were forced to incorporate all clubs into their ' pyramid '. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, clash city rocker said: Excellent. The baw is now with the Sfa. About time they were forced to incorporate all clubs into their ' pyramid '. There will be a lot of promulgating going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilbowie Benches Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Should have been done 5 years ago! EoSL won’t accept the East Juniors as equals so how do the Juniors get around that? Theyd be tier 6 in the West but 7 in the east? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kilbowie Benches said: Should have been done 5 years ago! EoSL won’t accept the East Juniors as equals so how do the Juniors get around that? Theyd be tier 6 in the West but 7 in the east? (... and Tier 6 in the North too.) That's been the main sticking point in all the pyramid talks so far, I'm sure. The only way round it is for ALL the remaining East Region Juniors to apply together to join the EoSL! Ideally, then the SJFA would be abolished (reinstatement with it), and a new governing body created to oversee all the Leagues at Tier 6+ (or, better still, 5+) and institute for their member clubs a new Scottish "FA Trophy" to replace the Junior Cup! Edited March 26, 2018 by archieb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, superbigal said: Either sooner or prior to the AGM. Is that not the same thing ? Not necessarily. Maybe by prior he means e.g. that if the AGM starts at 5pm the EGM will start at 4pm on the same day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Dail Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, clash city rocker said: Excellent. The baw is now with the Sfa. About time they were forced to incorporate all clubs into their ' pyramid '. If it means the SFA now has a mandate to organise all football clubs into the appropriate regions and leagues it would be excellent indeed. They could place the North clubs into the pyramid under the HL, the East clubs can integrate into the established EoS at tier 6, and the West Juniors effectively stays as is, but feeding into the LL alongside the SoS and EoS - hand it all over - sorted! Edited March 26, 2018 by Che Dail 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Che Dail said: If it means the SFA now has a mandate to organise all football clubs into the appropriate regions and leagues it would be excellent indeed. They could place the North clubs into the pyramid under the HL, the East clubs can integrate into the established EoS at tier 6, and the West Juniors effectively stays as is, but feeding into the LL alongside the SoS and EoS - hand it all over - sorted! The SoS would absolutely have to merge with the West Juniors in that scenario. Otherwise, you'd have the following three feeders: 70+ EoS/East Juniors 60+West Juniors 15 SoS clubs Edited March 26, 2018 by stanley 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Here's another idea: Resurrect the idea of a Junior East+West Superduper League with 8+8 top teams from those two regions. There would be better justification for it to alongside the LL at Step 5 as the majority of clubs seem to want. After a season or two, the Superduper League and LL could possibly amalgamate and form either a LL East and a LL West, or LL Divs 1 and 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Is this a certainty? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShahktarYerMaw Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Is this a certainty? I voted to shag Michelle Keegan. As likely to happen as this is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Serious answers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sunrise said: Serious answers? All it means is the SJFA will probably have a meeting with the SFA. SJFA ask to join at level 5, SFA piss themselves laughing, meeting over. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, archieb said: I'm pretty sure the SJFA has already accepted in principle that the HL/LL boundary will be moved from the Tay to the Esk North Esk or South Esk? Montrose and Brechin lie between the two. Edited March 26, 2018 by invergowrie arab 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, bendan said: All it means is the SJFA will probably have a meeting with the SFA. SJFA ask to join at level 5, SFA piss themselves laughing, meeting over. * First the GOOD NEWS (for some): The SJFA questionnaire has confirmed that the majority, but certainly not all Junior clubs want to join the "current pyramid" A substantial minority of other Junior clubs want to remain with the SJFA The SFA is not seeking to 'close down' the SJFA The extensive range of SFA financial and other benefits available to its Member clubs (see earlier post, not from me), will be extended to Junior clubs as/when they join the Pyramid. * Now the NOT SO GOOD NEWS (for some): The SFA will not allow a second Tier 5 feeder league for West clubs, now or next season The SFA does however want a West league asap, which could by adopting the West Super League en bloc as the 'senior feeder to the SLL, at Tier 6 The SFA will never accept two Tier 6 leagues in the East. To do so would be insane The SFA has no intention of 'demoting' the EoSL, and its existing member clubs would reject it Some East Junior clubs will be elected to the EoSL for next season (numbers still speculative). * Now the BAD NEWS (for some ) The SFA will not licence Junior clubs who decide to remain in the Junior Leagues The SFA will need to give SoSL clubs the chance to join a new West feeder league, but applications are unlikely from any clubs (except Threave ?) before realigning the SoSL at Tier 7 The SFA will not agree to play-offs between 'senior' and 'junior' clubs for promotion to the SLL (nor to the HFL). >>>>>>> 5 days to go until the EoSL & SoSL deadline for new clubs, closes. Arguments will no doubt continue , but will these make much if any, difference to the eventual outcome for 2018/19 ? We are where we are, and there is no perfect solution for all interested parties. NB : The above are my personal views. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomShakalaka Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, archieb said: Here's another idea: Resurrect the idea of a Junior East+West Superduper League with 8+8 top teams from those two regions. There would be better justification for it to alongside the LL at Step 5 as the majority of clubs seem to want. After a season or two, the Superduper League and LL could possibly amalgamate and form either a LL East and a LL West, or LL Divs 1 and 2. Ayrshire clubs didnt want that a few years back. Cos they are going to lose control they will want that now? ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomShakalaka Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, bendan said: All it means is the SJFA will probably have a meeting with the SFA. SJFA ask to join at level 5, SFA piss themselves laughing, meeting over. Aye and the SJFA will have a list of demands - which will be impossible to achieve but will then say - We tried, we really did but they just couldnt agree to guarantee world peace 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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