Junior football, what is the future?

[cmontheloknow]

4 minutes ago, pie n beans said:

Bo'ness and Linlithgow will surely go now make it 19 teams. Massive problems for EJFA. The problem is who is going to replace these teams as no amateur club no matter how good they are do not have parks to suit the junior game.

They won't be replaced will they? The SJFA has through its own inaction forced its own extinction.

[Tutankhamen]

Any word from the Tayside clubs?

[Tutankhamen]

23 hours ago, Sunrise said:

Holy f**k RobRoyGuy's no taking his team's recent troubles too weel.

Sadly this Better Together-esque guff will get a fair bit a traction amongst the Isa-ites.

Doubt it, the West are watching this Titanic farce in the East. There will be an orderly transition in the West when the time comes. None of this ditching the Dundee clubs to jump into the freezing water like the Lothian crowd did.

[Sunrise]

Just now, Tutankhamen said:

Doubt it, the West are watching this Titanic farce in the East. There will be an orderly transition in the West when the time comes. None of this ditching the Dundee clubs to jump into the freezing water like the Lothian crowd did.

 

[Stag Nation]

10 hours ago, Vollyman said:

Four of the clubs joining the EOS finished below Armadale this season. We are negative towards a system that allows clubs who have not earned the right to be introduced to tier 6 of the pyramid. While admitting the SJFA have mismanaged the situation the SFA has made a farce of the Pyramid system.

They have every right to enter at Tier 6: it is (at present) the only level available. There is no Tier 7.

[corner]

8 hours ago, Khufu2 said:

The Lowland League is an east and south league. There is no west league at tier 5.  Commonsense dictates there should be two leagues at tier 5 serving the central belt and south to balance the Highland league which serves a much smaller population. It is ridiculous to suggest the central belt and south should only have one tier 5 league.

The population argument is a complete red herring. There will only ever be at most two places to move up from tier 5 to tier 4, and they will go to the best two teams at tier 5. You can have as many tier 5 leagues as you like and all you are doing is increasing the number of playoffs needed to pick the same two teams. The chances are still the same.

[Auld Heid]

Doubt it, the West are watching this Titanic farce in the East. There will be an orderly transition in the West when the time comes. None of this ditching the Dundee clubs to jump into the freezing water like the Lothian crowd did.

If the West had been more minded for change past playing on their own door steps...!!

[Vollyman]

I have no idea who he supports, although going by your comment I can guess now.

Your team’s (Kelty Hearts) vice captain I thought you would know him he has scored over 40 goals for Kelty in the last 3 years good laddie comes from Armadale

[FairWeatherFan]

6 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said:

Doubt it, the West are watching this Titanic farce in the East. There will be an orderly transition in the West when the time comes. None of this ditching the Dundee clubs to jump into the freezing water like the Lothian crowd did.

I'm not too sure it will be all that orderly in the West. If Linlithgow and Bo'ness go to the EoS it kind of kills off the idea of a Lowland Superleague.

It then becomes more likely that an independent WoSFL will be formed by the SFA as discussed at the most recent PWG, rather than any SJFA backed idea. Priority would therefore be given to already licenced clubs in the West of Scotland (Girvan, Glasgow University & those SoS clubs). They might well turn down the opportunity, but space will taken up leaving it unlikely that the new West Region Premiership could fill the spot in its entirety.

So clubs with the best chance of being licenced quickly would probably be preferred candidates meaning West Region Championship. League 1 & League 2 clubs could end up in the Tier 6 WoSFL.

[Tutankhamen]

23 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

I'm not too sure it will be all that orderly in the West. If Linlithgow and Bo'ness go to the EoS it kind of kills off the idea of a Lowland Superleague.

It then becomes more likely that an independent WoSFL will be formed by the SFA as discussed at the most recent PWG, rather than any SJFA backed idea. Priority would therefore be given to already licenced clubs in the West of Scotland (Girvan, Glasgow University & those SoS clubs). They might well turn down the opportunity, but space will taken up leaving it unlikely that the new West Region Premiership could fill the spot in its entirety.

So clubs with the best chance of being licenced quickly would probably be preferred candidates meaning West Region Championship. League 1 & League 2 clubs could end up in the Tier 6 WoSFL.

Word salad?

[FairWeatherFan]

Just now, Tutankhamen said:

Word salad?

The West will be a mess just like the East.

[Tutankhamen]

23 hours ago, gogsy said:

Only if you cant understand English

Ken like

[Khufu2]

12 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said:

Doubt it, the West are watching this Titanic farce in the East. There will be an orderly transition in the West when the time comes. None of this ditching the Dundee clubs to jump into the freezing water like the Lothian crowd did.

Well the east has certainly given a master class in how not to do it.  At least the likes of Blackburn Utd and Dalkeith, who thought they had pulled a fast one over their former junior colleagues will end up precisely where they started,  back in the mediocrity of the teams they thought they had left behind.

[Khufu2]

10 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

I'm not too sure it will be all that orderly in the West. If Linlithgow and Bo'ness go to the EoS it kind of kills off the idea of a Lowland Superleague.

It then becomes more likely that an independent WoSFL will be formed by the SFA as discussed at the most recent PWG, rather than any SJFA backed idea. Priority would therefore be given to already licenced clubs in the West of Scotland (Girvan, Glasgow University & those SoS clubs). They might well turn down the opportunity, but space will taken up leaving it unlikely that the new West Region Premiership could fill the spot in its entirety.

So clubs with the best chance of being licenced quickly would probably be preferred candidates meaning West Region Championship. League 1 & League 2 clubs could end up in the Tier 6 WoSFL.

Why would there just be a single division if 62 West juniors apply to join the WoSL? Surely, you don’t think the west should be treated differently from the east.

Stick the likes of Glasgow Uni in the top division with Beith and Pollok and Auchinleck and they will be massacred.

Why would the SoS teams be joining tier 6 WoS when they already have their own tier 6 league?

[Stag Nation]

2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

You're keeping me on my toes here. Two former boys clubs, one of which even has COLTS in the name, can compete with the beasts from the west!

You've really not gotten this pro Junior trolling down have you? East Kilbride and Cumbernauld Colts are two of the clubs that should be banished from the pyramid as their lack of tradition makes it a mockery.

I hadn't realised that tradition was one of the criteria.

Never mind the LL, lack of tradition didn't stop a brand new club being admitted to the SFL six years ago.

[drs]

11 minutes ago, Khufu2 said:

Well the east has certainly given a master class in how not to do it.  At least the likes of Blackburn Utd and Dalkeith, who thought they had pulled a fast one over their former junior colleagues will end up precisely where they started,  back in the mediocrity of the teams they thought they had left behind.

You seem upset.

[Khufu2]

Just now, drs said:

You seem upset.

Really? How on earth do you deduce that?

[drs]

Just now, Khufu2 said:

Really? How on earth do you deduce that?

You seem upset

 

 

 

[FairWeatherFan]

11 minutes ago, Khufu2 said:

Why would there just be a single division if 62 West juniors apply to join the WoSL? Surely, you don’t think the west should be treated differently from the east.

Stick the likes of Glasgow Uni in the top division with Beith and Pollok and Auchinleck and they will be massacred.

Why would the SoS teams be joining tier 6 WoS when they already have their own tier 6 league?

The SFL, SPFL and EoSFL have all operated with more than division. The WoSFL will likely do the same. The EoSFL guaranteed this year that all new applicants will start of at Tier 6 and probably didn't expect the turn out. The initial talk was over concern of having to split into sections by having more than 18 members.

Having learned from this experience I expect that the WoSFL to take on the same approach as the Lowland League. Take the best candidates with a licence, or able to achieve one after a set grace period. Everyone files in below that's interested. The way things are going there will still be some of that 62 that want to remain Junior beyond 2019.

The reasons for the SoS teams being offered a spot in the Tier 6 WoSFL. Is because it has been acknowledged from day one that 3 or more feeders to the Lowland League is too cumbersome. This is provides the opportunity to streamline.

[FairWeatherFan]

13 minutes ago, Stag Nation said:

I hadn't realised that tradition was one of the criteria.

Never mind the LL, lack of tradition didn't stop a brand new club being admitted to the SFL six years ago.

Talk to the SJFA they'll tell you it's all about tradition. They should just be waved in wherever and whenever they feel like it.