Burnie_man Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 9 hours ago, BTID said: What are the terms and conditions for joining the 20s league...apart from being a league member? Being in the Pyramid in the LL or one of the feeders, and having access to a floodlight home ground (not necessarily the senior teams ground) as games are played Friday night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS7 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 12 hours ago, BENJI BOY said: Lets look at whats happening to a once great feeder grade to both junior and senior football..the under 21 Juvenile leagues...Famous well run clubs like Campsie Black Watch and others going out of existence annually till we only have a handful existing today because the committees are devoted to retaining their communities club...Killed off by the new Acadamies and seniors taking players out of circulation at 9/10/11 /12 etc years old starving the natural paths through schools/boys clubs and so on for the juveniles. True the juniors WERE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN UNDER 20 TEAMS BECAUSE THE TALENT HAD BEEN SYPHONED OF BY THE SENIORS...That wont change with the pyramid..very soon......the potential players are not available to them. You almost nailed the point, but missed the target at the end. Oh well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, cmontheloknow said: Just for the record as posts get lost easily here! The full list: (updated with self confirmations) Blackburn United Bonnyrigg Rose Camelon Juniors Crossgates Primrose (facebook) Dalkeith Thistle (website) Dunipace (facebook) Easthouses Lily (twitter) Edinburgh United (facebook) Haddington Athletic Hill of Beath Hawthorn (twitter) Hillfield Swifts (twitter) Musselburgh Athletic Tranent Good luck for the future to all the Junior teams in that list. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Illustrious Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, Glenconner said: Good luck for the future to all the Junior teams in that list. I’m sure they will all join me in wishing LTHV all the best in their quest for yet another EOS title this afternoon. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, Mr Illustrious said: I’m sure they will all join me in wishing LTHV all the best in their quest for yet another EOS title this afternoon. Anything that gets rid of the 130 year old closed shop brigade in the Seniors must be a good thing. LL and EoSL should be pushing for chancers like Cowdenbeath etc to face automatic relegation when they come bottom of the league. 2 up 2 down would clear most of them out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, gogsy said: Aye the two league ten team set up 130 years ago has stood the test of time. Its great how the likes of Linthouse, Abercorn andport Glasgow are still playing in the Senior leagues To be fair, the only mechanism for getting rid of dead wood up until now has been hanging around and waiting for them to go bust like the three you mentioned did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, gogsy said: http://www.scottish-football-historical-archive.co.nf/sflelections.htm To be fair , looking at this link I would argue thr mechanisms in place for entry to the Scottish leagues were pretty fluid for the vast majority of its history so far. Not sure Cowdenbeath can be described as dead wood either, pretty sure they,ve been bottom of Scottish league only 4 times in about 60 seasons. Yeah, but twice in consecutive seasons. The last two unfortunately, which makes them dead wood at the moment regardless of how great they were in the middle of last century. The old-style re-election process was weird, and some seriously questionable decisions were made back in the day. In more recent decades though, for any club wanting to join the it's been a case of dead man's shoes and waiting for a moribund club to fall off their perch or waiting for a league expansion. Even the playoff system in place at the moment is a huge improvement on what went before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, gogsy said: http://www.scottish-football-historical-archive.co.nf/sflelections.htm To be fair , looking at this link I would argue thr mechanisms in place for entry to the Scottish leagues were pretty fluid for the vast majority of its history so far. Not sure Cowdenbeath can be described as dead wood either, pretty sure they,ve been bottom of Scottish league only 4 times in about 60 seasons. They don't half love you on that Cowdenbeath thread (not). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Present day Clydebank can thank UEFA for finding a way back into the Seniors. I'll not mention East Stirlighire or Airdrie Utd, far too complicated. Or Clyde trying to buy out Dumbarton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, gogsy said: 1) No idea wtf you mean, (second time you've posted that by the way.) Out of curiosity, did Kelty win the league? Is that you in the Lowland League? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: Yeah, but twice in consecutive seasons. The last two unfortunately, which makes them dead wood at the moment regardless of how great they were in the middle of last century. The old-style re-election process was weird, and some seriously questionable decisions were made back in the day. In more recent decades though, for any club wanting to join the it's been a case of dead man's shoes and waiting for a moribund club to fall off their perch or waiting for a league expansion. Even the playoff system in place at the moment is a huge improvement on what went before. Interesting how the votes went way back in the day. Linthouse beat Wishaw by 1 point to get senior status and that was pre Motherwell coming into the picture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, gogsy said: No idea what that has got to do with this thread, or indeed what it has got to for with your claim the main Scottish leagues have been a closed shop for 130 years. Looks like you are still in full troll mode. So are you in the Lowland League? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 So after all that nastiest and sniping from gogsy on here, Kelty Hearts failed to win the league. You couldn't make that up. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 11 hours ago, one nil said: 298 pages so far. One thing is absolutely certain. There’ll be a damn site fewer posts in the Juniors section of this forum next year. Mores the pity. Or is it? I wouldn't count on it. Five west superleague clubs were said to be interested in a tier 6 west feeder to the LL not that long back and how that emerges either under the auspices of the SJFA or EoS will be the main issue next season. There are also plenty of clubs in the east that agree with having a pyramid but didn't want to do it through the defection to the EoS route this season. This is the latest from Bo'ness United, for example: https://www.linlithgowgazette.co.uk/sport/football/bo-ness-united-to-stick-in-junior-football-for-time-being-1-4719195 Chairman Iain Muirhead told the Bo’ness Journal: “We were one of the 99 clubs who responded favourably to the recent questionnaire asking if we would like to quit the juniors to join the SFA’s Pyramid system. “But I definitely think there should be some way for junior clubs like ourselves to get to the senior ranks without having to go through the East of Scotland League route. “Now Tom Johnston (SJFA secretary) has to go away and hold his EGM and AGM, have discussions with the SFA with a view to taking the proposals forward. “We would be interested in joining the senior ranks. “Now it is up to Tom to say: ‘This is what we think will happen’ and there will be a further discussion.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Hamish Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 That's 3 weeks old, attitudes have shifted a wee bit and hear they've since talked to the EoS -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Glenconner said: So after all that nastiest and sniping from gogsy on here, Kelty Hearts failed to win the league. You couldn't make that up. That didn't age well. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Well done Kelty on promotion championship at first time of asking! LTHV will be stern competition though no doubt for the newcomers next season. Edited April 28, 2018 by cmontheloknow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, gogsy said: Bit premature that bit. Yeah forgot about the play off! /o\ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Was a magnificent occasion. Virtually impossible to park in kelty and there was well over 1000 at the match. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicotina Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 what was the score ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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