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They did - it caused major consternation among the leadership at the time, and nearly sparked off similar retaliatory atrocities.
Wasn't kingsmill a retaliation in itself?

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44 minutes ago, MarkoRaj said:
3 hours ago, Audaces Fortuna Juvat said:
They did - it caused major consternation among the leadership at the time, and nearly sparked off similar retaliatory atrocities.

Wasn't kingsmill a retaliation in itself?

Aye, there had been 4 or 5 Roman Catholics murdered in the previous couple of days, 3 of them were brothers I think. 

The first people on the scene were the parents of the brothers, I think.

"Four days later, on 4 January 1976, loyalists shot dead six Catholic civilians in two co-ordinated attacks. They killed three members of the Reavey family at their home in Whitecross and three members of the O'Dowd family at their home in Ballydougan. The Irish News reported that the killings were revenge for the bombing in Gilford"

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On 08/01/2018 at 12:35, Jacksgranda said:

Aye, there had been 4 or 5 Roman Catholics murdered in the previous couple of days, 3 of them were brothers I think. 

The first people on the scene were the parents of the brothers, I think.

"Four days later, on 4 January 1976, loyalists shot dead six Catholic civilians in two co-ordinated attacks. They killed three members of the Reavey family at their home in Whitecross and three members of the O'Dowd family at their home in Ballydougan. The Irish News reported that the killings were revenge for the bombing in Gilford"

Then Ian Paisley abused Parliamentary privilege in 1999 by wrongly accusing Eugene Reavey of involvement in planning Kingsmills. https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ian-paisley-peerage-an-insult-insists-murder-slur-man-28538099.html 

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6 hours ago, Glenconner said:

Can you get BBC Alba in N.Ireland?

Asking for a friend who supports Crusaders.

If you've Sky you'll be able to get it.

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27 minutes ago, RedRob72 said:


Didn’t she ( Baroness Paisley) also say that she too wouldn’t support a stand alone ILA?

Aye, but she's talking about the collapse last January, not the current impasse, and blaming it (last January's collapse) on the RHI scandal. And, by inference, you know who...

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On 2/18/2018 at 04:04, Glenconner said:

Can you get BBC Alba in N.Ireland?

Asking for a friend who supports Crusaders.

Interesting that the DUP regard Irish Gaelic with such disdain when most of Scotland's native Gaelic speakers are from Presbyterian backgrounds. Funnily enough, the Wee Frees while considering the Pope as the 'Anti-Christ' also consider the Orange Order as a cult.

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Can you get BBC Alba in N.Ireland?
Asking for a friend who supports Crusaders.

If its cable like Virgin the regional stuff is somewhere in there near the end.

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Interesting that the DUP regard Irish Gaelic with such disdain when most of Scotland's native Gaelic speakers are from Presbyterian backgrounds. Funnily enough, the Wee Frees while considering the Pope as the 'Anti-Christ' also consider the Orange Order as a cult.


Loud joyous celebrations with brightly coloured ceremonial outfits and music were hardly likely to appeal to the Wee Frees.

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DUP to be hoisted on its own petard. Labour MP seeking vote on gay marriage in  NI in HOC. Direct rule has consequences. Likely to be a free vote. DUP/ Tory alliance either goes against equality act or loses one of DUP red lines.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2018-02-20/sos-says-ni-same-sex-marriage-could-be-passed-at-westminster/&ved=2ahUKEwi_4eXrkL3ZAhWiKcAKHfGWCHQQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0cyT56nq7bKcYqAbIqaPcm

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Aye, but she's talking about the collapse last January, not the current impasse, and blaming it (last January's collapse) on the RHI scandal. And, by inference, you know who...

You know the script better than most on here JG when it comes to the shenanigans on the Hill, but wasn’t the RHI scheme endorsed and given the go ahead by the whole Assembly, including SF?

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18 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

 


Loud joyous celebrations with brightly coloured ceremonial outfits and music were hardly likely to appeal to the Wee Frees.
 

 

I see what you mean...

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12 hours ago, RedRob72 said:


You know the script better than most on here JG when it comes to the shenanigans on the Hill, but wasn’t the RHI scheme endorsed and given the go ahead by the whole Assembly, including SF?

The older Paisley generation didn't get over the way the DUP unceremoniously dumped Ian Paisley as leader when their calculation was that he had become an electoral liability by being too friendly with Martin McGuiness and gave some embittered interviews about it before Ian Paisley died. I have no idea what Arlene Foster's role would have been on that (it was mainly Peter Robinson and Nigel Dodds that were getting criticised), but this could easily be Eileen Paisley's way of putting the boot in as revenge.

14 hours ago, Bedford White said:

DUP to be hoisted on its own petard. Labour MP seeking vote on gay marriage in  NI in HOC. Direct rule has consequences. Likely to be a free vote. DUP/ Tory alliance either goes against equality act or loses one of DUP red lines.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2018-02-20/sos-says-ni-same-sex-marriage-could-be-passed-at-westminster/&ved=2ahUKEwi_4eXrkL3ZAhWiKcAKHfGWCHQQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0cyT56nq7bKcYqAbIqaPcm

They already have civil partnerships for gay couples in NI, so it doesn't actually make all that much difference in practical terms given it's no more than semantics to use the word marriage instead. Think they could get over that quite quickly and might privately even be glad to finally have it out of the way. The real irony would be if Westminster eventually pushed through an Irish Language Act that was worse from their standpoint than what they could have negotiated with SF at Stormont and that could happen down the road under Corbyn, who isn't exactly renowned for his Unionism.

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22 hours ago, Bedford White said:

DUP to be hoisted on its own petard. Labour MP seeking vote on gay marriage in  NI in HOC. Direct rule has consequences. Likely to be a free vote. DUP/ Tory alliance either goes against equality act or loses one of DUP red lines.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2018-02-20/sos-says-ni-same-sex-marriage-could-be-passed-at-westminster/&ved=2ahUKEwi_4eXrkL3ZAhWiKcAKHfGWCHQQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0cyT56nq7bKcYqAbIqaPcm

I don't know the constitutional status but can Westminster pass a law on a matter that is "Devolved" even if no Executive is in place? If so then what is to stop doing the same to Scotland and wales. I am no fan of the DUP but surely it is up to the NI Assembly, whether sitting or not, to decide such laws. What does the GFA agreement say about Westminster powers? 

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8 minutes ago, Chapelhall chap said:

I don't know the constitutional status but can Westminster pass a law on a matter that is "Devolved" even if no Executive is in place? If so then what is to stop doing the same to Scotland and wales. I am no fan of the DUP but surely it is up to the NI Assembly, whether sitting or not, to decide such laws. What does the GFA agreement say about Westminster powers? 

If the Northern Irish can't agree to form a Government, who else would make essential decisions? I'd imagine the same would happen in Wales and Scotland. I'm staggered that the MLA's are still getting paid. Westminster should use their power to piss off both sides as much as possible and force them to behave like responsible adults on behalf of their constituents.

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I agree but what are essential decisions? I believe that a budget to continue public services is the crucial next step. As for not paying them I agree
What I remain puzzled about is the issue of gay marriage and who has legal powers over it in. MIGHT.

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2 hours ago, Chapelhall chap said:

I don't know the constitutional status but can Westminster pass a law on a matter that is "Devolved" even if no Executive is in place? 

Westminster can pass any laws they like, whether the NI Executive are in place or not. This also applies to Scotland & Wales.

You may recall that "The Vow" stated that Scotland would be given the most federal government ever, with extensive powers that could never be taken away. That was just another lie. Westminster could abolish Holyrood tomorrow, and there's not a thing we could do about it.

But hey, isn't Britain great.

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12 hours ago, Crùbag said:

I see what you mean...

gay orangemen.jpg

King Billy would've approved.

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