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Eligible Scottish Players Rumoured Transfers: 2017/2018


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Was looking up Minnesota United team because of the rumoured Nicholson transfer didn't realise they had another Scottish player on the books called jack Blake who's played for the under 19s. Seems he's signed for Jacksonville although still shows under the Minnesota squad

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36 minutes ago, skippy2015 said:

Was looking up Minnesota United team because of the rumoured Nicholson transfer didn't realise they had another Scottish player on the books called jack Blake who's played for the under 19s. Seems he's signed for Jacksonville although still shows under the Minnesota squad

It's a bit of a strange on as the boy has a bit of talent, to take the route to the USA, especially at his age, is... bizarre.

I would love for him to go to France or somewhere else abroad.

 

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Robbie Knox linked with Nottingham Forrest.

Our football is an absolute disgrace, Livingston have produced players like Dorrans, Snodgrass, Griffiths, etc, and yet they're in the second tier of Scottish football. Could say the same for St Mirren.

The sooner that teams in top tier of Scottish football put self-interest aside (wanting to play the Old Firm four times a season) the better for Scottish football and more chances managers will have to blood their youngsters. During our "glory years" our top league comprised of 18 teams. It's about time we stopped renaming the top tier and really made change happen. Changing the name of the top tier every other year doesn't actually do anything.

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7 hours ago, SlayerX said:

Robbie Knox linked with Nottingham Forrest.

Do you mean Matthew Knox? They've been after him for a while, sure we rejected a bid or two from them over the past couple transfer windows.

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2 minutes ago, LiviLion said:

Do you mean Matthew Knox? They've been after him for a while, sure we rejected a bid or two from them over the past couple transfer windows.

You're right. Robbie Knox is a racing driver.

D'oh!

 

 

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1 minute ago, Gordopolis said:

£20m? That's just f'ing bonkers! That's one quarter of Ronaldo!

English football is crazy. The money that they're throwing around is ridiculous. 

When you look at a sum than an EPL is willing to pay/has paid, divide it by three. So, they're usually paying three times over the odds.

By those rules, Cairney is worth £6million, which seems right.

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On 6/4/2017 at 17:15, SlayerX said:

Robbie Knox linked with Nottingham Forrest.

Our football is an absolute disgrace, Livingston have produced players like Dorrans, Snodgrass, Griffiths, etc, and yet they're in the second tier of Scottish football. Could say the same for St Mirren.

The sooner that teams in top tier of Scottish football put self-interest aside (wanting to play the Old Firm four times a season) the better for Scottish football and more chances managers will have to blood their youngsters. During our "glory years" our top league comprised of 18 teams. It's about time we stopped renaming the top tier and really made change happen. Changing the name of the top tier every other year doesn't actually do anything.

What or whose glory years? The Premier League was introduced in 1975. Obviously they had just had the 1974 World Cup and Rangers & Celtic had European wins as well. The vast majority of national team success came between 74-98, the argument that the league format is the problem doesn't stand up.

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12 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

What or whose glory years? The Premier League was introduced in 1975. Obviously they had just had the 1974 World Cup and Rangers & Celtic had European wins as well. The vast majority of national team success came between 74-98, the argument that the league format is the problem doesn't stand up.

You do know that inverted commas can be used to convey sarcasm and irony, right?

Seems like the fans want a bigger league...

Mark Wotte agrees.

And apparently the idea was shot down by the top 12 greedy clubs.

So, that's it, that's the whole basis of your argument? "That the vast majority of national team success came between 74-98". The players from the later 70's played in the larger league set-up, so that argument is awash. And since then our footballers and national team have declined in standard. Is that solely the fault of the league size? Of course not, but I'd say that it's certainly one of (many) reasons.

If the league were larger then we would've had players like John McGinn, Jason Cummings,Lewis Morgan, Tony Gallacher, Stephen Mallan, Craig Sibbald, etc, playing against the best teams, playing at the largest crowds and the biggest stadiums, in from of TV cameras for years, instead of struggling and languishing in a harem scarem league where you have to claw, punch and kick your way to escape your way to ONE position. Yes, that's conducive to creating and building footballers that are capable, and encouraged, to be technically gifted footballers. Yes, keep the talented youngsters in a league where "route one" is the only route.

Wouldn't you rather have your up-and-coming players playing in the top flight, rather than playing in lower leagues? McGinn and Cummings, for example, if they were in the top flight for the previous 2 seasons then their development wouldn't be much greater than it is at this moment. Morgan is a gem of a player, but he'll have to be in the surroundings of kick and rush football for another 12 months. Same with Sibbald, and god knows how many other talented kids we have in that division.

Hibs, Falkirk, Dundee United, Morton are easily the  match of the majority of teams in the top flight. Those type of teams only produced players like Scott Brown, Robert Snodgrass, Graham Dorrans, Ryan Gauld, John Souttar, Stuart Armstrong, Stephen Fletcher, Kevin Thomson, Garry O'Connor (Scoff if you want, he did score a few goals for us), and I could go on. These clubs should be rewards by being at the top level.

And talking of Mallan, he had to join mighty BARSLEY to escape the "Championship" (Can we please stop copying English football with the names of leagues?)

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So, in your argument, teams should be placed in the top flight based on how good their young players are?

If these teams are good enough, they will earn their promotion. If they dont, and they have star players better than their current club, those players will be signed by a higher quality team. It is the same in every division, in every country, regardless of the number of teams or the style of football.

Dundee United "are easily the match of the majority of teams in the top flight". They had their chance against the 2nd worse team in the top flight...and fluffed it. Same with Falkirk the year before. Hibs, Dundee Utd, Falkirk, etc. are in that division because they have proven not to be good enough to get into the top division. Simple.

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4 hours ago, Jacky1990 said:

So, in your argument, teams should be placed in the top flight based on how good their young players are?

If these teams are good enough, they will earn their promotion. If they dont, and they have star players better than their current club, those players will be signed by a higher quality team. It is the same in every division, in every country, regardless of the number of teams or the style of football.

Dundee United "are easily the match of the majority of teams in the top flight". They had their chance against the 2nd worse team in the top flight...and fluffed it. Same with Falkirk the year before. Hibs, Dundee Utd, Falkirk, etc. are in that division because they have proven not to be good enough to get into the top division. Simple.

The top flight should be 16 teams, regardless of anything that's past and present.

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On 6/4/2017 at 17:15, SlayerX said:

Robbie Knox linked with Nottingham Forrest.

Our football is an absolute disgrace, Livingston have produced players like Dorrans, Snodgrass, Griffiths, etc, and yet they're in the second tier of Scottish football. Could say the same for St Mirren.

The sooner that teams in top tier of Scottish football put self-interest aside (wanting to play the Old Firm four times a season) the better for Scottish football and more chances managers will have to blood their youngsters. During our "glory years" our top league comprised of 18 teams. It's about time we stopped renaming the top tier and really made change happen. Changing the name of the top tier every other year doesn't actually do anything.

 

Livingston's position in the league system is more to do with parade of cartoon villains they've had running the club than anything else.  

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On 14 June 2017 at 12:57, SlayerX said:

Fulham turn down £20million offer from Newcastle for Tom Cairney.

 

On 14 June 2017 at 13:39, Gordopolis said:

£20m? That's just f'ing bonkers! That's one quarter of Ronaldo!

 

On 14 June 2017 at 13:45, SlayerX said:

English football is crazy. The money that they're throwing around is ridiculous.

When you look at a sum than an EPL is willing to pay/has paid, divide it by three. So, they're usually paying three times over the odds.

By those rules, Cairney is worth £6million, which seems right.

In amongst all the statistical blurb in this article, there's a mention of Tom Cairney being one of the best passers in England. In the current financial climate and with clubs getting more sophisticated with their scouting, £20m probably isn't as wild as it first seems.

http://statsbomb.com/2017/06/passing-percentages-are-mostly-useless-quantifying-passing-ability/

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