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8 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:


You boys just need to keep doing what you are doing though. Its Utd that need a step up they barely look capable of. First game under Laszlo when they scudded us, despite our ineptitude that day, I was convinced they would click. It now seems that they have fallen off again and have really played all their cards by the look of it. Despite looking a bit shit last season they ground their way to third, but they really dont look capable of the sort of form to overhaul you.

I also heard Ross on the radio yesterday. He seems to be relishing being the front runner and keeping Morgan and having the chance to strengthen is huge for you.

Also, like I said at the time, please never forget how we obliterated the very core of your only potential title rivals.

I think the fact that Utd lost their core in Fyvie and Fraser for the rest of the season in quick succession is the thing that's hurt them most deeply.

We're currently settled and in the last two games, there's been moments where Morgan, Magennis and McGinn have each taken really sore looking ones that they've struggled with for a few minutes afterwards and you can hear the crowd holding their collective breaths until they run it off. An injury to a key player is sometimes all it takes to f**k your shape and balance up completely.

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42 minutes ago, paisleysaints said:

Surely Utd fans don't believe this league is over. I'm like majority of saints supporters don't believe it's over. I still think anyone can't beat anyone in the league. You've got a game in hand and we still need to visit you at home. League is far from over albeit I'd still rather have the points in the bag right now.

 

 

I don’t believe it’s over but I’d far rather be in your position than in ours.

The reality is that Fyvie and Fraser, our best two players by a mile this season, have picked up long term injuries and this has, and will continue to have, a huge impact on our performances.

Such is life.

 

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29 minutes ago, Div said:

This.

I've seen St.Mirren lose a cup final to nine men, go out of Europe despite leading 4-3 at home with two mins left and having 3 away goals in the bag and draw a game 3-3 when leading 3-0 with ten mins left.

Long way to go.

On this day a few years ago, we were 2-1 up away to a ten-man Hearts team. Lost 5-2.

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I think the fact that Utd lost their core in Fyvie and Fraser for the rest of the season in quick succession is the thing that's hurt them most deeply.
We're currently settled and in the last two games, there's been moments where Morgan, Magennis and McGinn have each taken really sore looking ones that they've struggled with for a few minutes afterwards and you can hear the crowd holding their collective breaths until they run it off. An injury to a key player is sometimes all it takes to f**k your shape and balance up completely.

Unusually for a rival fan on this thread you're fair and accurate in you're assessment of the situation.
In terms of ability, with Fyvie and Fraser in the team I think our two squads are neck and neck, maybe with us having a slight edge; both are reliant on a small band of good players.
Without our two best players we've lost any spark or creativity and the ability to boss games. you saw the difference in the 2-0 game where we were probably marginally better in the first half, should have been 1 up at half time with the penalty, then Morgan won the game in the second half with two long range shots.
I still don't think there is a massive difference between the teams, and if we won our game in hand and the game at tannadice we would be two points behind, therefore it would be unwise to think the title was 100% won or lost.
However the reason why I think you will win it is our mental fragility, unless we go in with a half time lead we don't look like we believe we can win a game. Whereas you look like you have the ability and belief to come from behind (queens game) and win comfortably even when you're not at your best (going by radio commentary this seemed to be the case yesterday).
Hope I'm wrong and think I still could be, but at the moment or best hope looks like a long term injury to Morgan and or mcginn.

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Hopefully the Premiership break ends soon so my eyes don't have to read such shite drivel from our neighbours.

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3 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Hopefully the Premiership break ends soon so my eyes don't have to read such shite drivel from our neighbours.

This.... It's ballachingly tedious, which is the idea tbf....

As for the sensible posters on here, (Arabs and Buddies alike) not much more to add than has been said already.

I don't think the league is over by a long shot, though obviously it doesn't look good good us at the moment,

The cup game next week is coming at a good time in terms of being useful to get some of our newer players some badly needed match fitness, and allowing time for some of our injured players to recover and ideally rejoin the squad.  Our bench yesterday (with due respect to the young boys that were on it) was totally unacceptable, aware of course that was all we had.

Hopefully by the Morton game (thank f**k we finally have one back at Tannadice) we will have some depth back, and get a badly needed confidence boosting result.

 

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55 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Hopefully the Premiership break ends soon so my eyes don't have to read such shite drivel from our neighbours.

You won't get rid of me that easily. Thank you.

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It’s similar to last season we were top of the league at the turn of the year then completely fell away .

cant see anything else but the play offs again 

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1 hour ago, dregs 83 said:


Unusually for a rival fan on this thread you're fair and accurate in you're assessment of the situation.
In terms of ability, with Fyvie and Fraser in the team I think our two squads are neck and neck, maybe with us having a slight edge; both are reliant on a small band of good players.
Without our two best players we've lost any spark or creativity and the ability to boss games. you saw the difference in the 2-0 game where we were probably marginally better in the first half, should have been 1 up at half time with the penalty, then Morgan won the game in the second half with two long range shots.
I still don't think there is a massive difference between the teams, and if we won our game in hand and the game at tannadice we would be two points behind, therefore it would be unwise to think the title was 100% won or lost.
However the reason why I think you will win it is our mental fragility, unless we go in with a half time lead we don't look like we believe we can win a game. Whereas you look like you have the ability and belief to come from behind (queens game) and win comfortably even when you're not at your best (going by radio commentary this seemed to be the case yesterday).
Hope I'm wrong and think I still could be, but at the moment or best hope looks like a long term injury to Morgan and or mcginn.

We were actually very impressive for most of the game yesterday. It wouldn't have flattered us if we'd won 4 or 5 -0 yesterday.

We may not have been at our "best", but going by recent performances from other teams against us, we'd have won against any other team in the league. 

However, as stated earlier, like yourselves we're only one injury away from being denied a vital player in our team.

The good news is for us, that two of the players we're signing next week are of the quality to further enhance an already confident, mentally strong team, who have opened a significant gap at the top of the table.

However, having said all that, it's not the St.Mirren way to do things in an easy manner, and I'm sure things won't go as smoothly as we'd like.

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24 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:

You won't get rid of me that easily. Thank you.

 

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3 minutes ago, JP THE DEE said:

Ciftci's back.

Mothewell thread for this pish....

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Ballantyne will get the full match on Saturday to prove himself.

All the thuds moaning he hasn't got a chance yet. I wouldn't be chucking a young guy just back from a loan spell straight into the high pressure games 

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4 minutes ago, MacArab said:

Mothewell thread for this pish....

Sorry mate your right,just saw an animal biting somebody's leg and thought Ciftci was back.

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1 minute ago, ArabianKnight said:

Ballantyne will get the full match on Saturday to prove himself.

All the thuds moaning he hasn't got a chance yet. I wouldn't be chucking a young guy just back from a loan spell straight into the high pressure games 

It is clear that Laszlo favours experience when possible. I was a little disappointed that Ballantyne didn't maybe get the second half at Falkirk given who obvious it was that Robson and Mason were struggling. I had no problem with Flood playing yesterday but again thought that Ballantyne might have been brought on when Stanton went off to allow Flood back into the middle. 

Personally I think the league is pretty much over. It might seems pessimistic but I think that the St.Mirren team is currently stronger than ours and we seem to struggle when the pressure is on. They have enough of a gap that they can play with a bit more confidence and I don't have the faith in our players that they will rise to the challenge of catching the Saints. 

If the board are as desperate as we think they are then we might yet see two or three more additions and we really do need them (especially in the forward areas). Our defence will not cost us the league IMO it will be the lack of cutting edge and ability to turn games like yesterday into wins. 

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49 minutes ago, stumigoo said:

It is clear that Laszlo favours experience when possible. I was a little disappointed that Ballantyne didn't maybe get the second half at Falkirk given who obvious it was that Robson and Mason were struggling. I had no problem with Flood playing yesterday but again thought that Ballantyne might have been brought on when Stanton went off to allow Flood back into the middle. 

Personally I think the league is pretty much over. It might seems pessimistic but I think that the St.Mirren team is currently stronger than ours and we seem to struggle when the pressure is on. They have enough of a gap that they can play with a bit more confidence and I don't have the faith in our players that they will rise to the challenge of catching the Saints. 

If the board are as desperate as we think they are then we might yet see two or three more additions and we really do need them (especially in the forward areas). Our defence will not cost us the league IMO it will be the lack of cutting edge and ability to turn games like yesterday into wins. 

We do need a "premiership" quality attacking midfielder and or a better winger than McMullan.

Even a solid defensive mid that can link up the defense to the forwards instead of lumping it up would be handy. 

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Just now, ArabianKnight said:

We do need a "premiership" quality attacking midfielder and or a better winger than McMullan.

Even a solid defensive mid that can link up the defense to the forwards instead of lumping it up would be handy. 

I thought Slater played quite well yesterday. If Stanton, Flood and Slater are all fit then that might be enough but we desperately need an attacking midfielder, a winger and ideally another striker as we clearly cannot rely on Keatings to remain fit (and he has turned out to be a bit of a dud so far). 

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10 minutes ago, stumigoo said:

I thought Slater played quite well yesterday. If Stanton, Flood and Slater are all fit then that might be enough but we desperately need an attacking midfielder, a winger and ideally another striker as we clearly cannot rely on Keatings to remain fit (and he has turned out to be a bit of a dud so far). 

Yup. I've totally written Keatings off which is a shame as I thought he would be in his element in this team. He can't go in the huff if he's not the main man when he can't keep himself fit!

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2 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:

You won't get rid of me that easily. Thank you.

Shite sticks. Thank you.

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3 hours ago, Alert Mongoose said:

Hopefully the Premiership break ends soon so my eyes don't have to read such shite drivel from our neighbours.

I find the best way to get rid of United posters on the Dundee thread is for Dundee to go on a winning run.  I guess a winning run by United is all it would take.  Can’t be that difficult to do surely?

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