McGuigan1978 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Not a coincidence no, you could argue him being there managed to keep them up... [emoji4]Both clubs had a summer to rebuild with a new manager and an entire season ahead of them, you can't blame it on him, especially when the clubs in question drift between the top and 2nd tier. And especially when both clubs lose players to bigger clubs all the time too. All his achievements seem to be getting conveniently shoved aside because 2 clubs got relegated the season after he left. [emoji23] So two clubs got relegated shortly after he left, and two clubs got relegated whilst he was in charge. There is a pattern emerging here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Don't get the fascination some football fans have for Yogi's talent as a manager. He's a balloon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 He had a good run at Falkirk, but things were falling apart by the time he left them. His final season there they avoided relegation by one point. His achievements at Hibs were based entirely on Anthony Stokes, and they utterly fell apart in the second half of that season, his signings in the second summer were hilariously bad, honestly just look them up.He is potentially okay as a short time manager who takes over an already good team, as he done at ICT, but he can't build a squad, so when a few players leave and he has to replace them, the squad turns to shite. He seems to have a knack of getting out at the right time. Who signed Anthony Stokes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 So two clubs got relegated shortly after he left, and two clubs got relegated whilst he was in charge. There is a pattern emerging here. I do not see how you can blame John Hughes for Richie Forans season last year. It's ridiculous. Dundee Hibernian, I don't have a fascination of his managerial ability. Just think it would be a pretty good appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Yogi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Big, hairy, sexy b*****d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 He had a good run at Falkirk, but things were falling apart by the time he left them. His final season there they avoided relegation by one point. His achievements at Hibs were based entirely on Anthony Stokes, and they utterly fell apart in the second half of that season, his signings in the second summer were hilariously bad, honestly just look them up.He is potentially okay as a short time manager who takes over an already good team, as he done at ICT, but he can't build a squad, so when a few players leave and he has to replace them, the squad turns to shite. He seems to have a knack of getting out at the right time. It fell apart at Falkirk when Latapy left, it fell apart at ICT when Latapy left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Just now, Back Post Misses said: It fell apart at Falkirk when Latapy left, it fell apart at ICT when Latapy left I wish Latapy hadn't left Ayr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedLoon63 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I'm sure you'd like to share your thought process on this. Who out there would do better job?No point going through different manager every year try stick with someone and give them a chance. We are only 2 points off top after 6 games and everyone is making a big deal out of it. Fair enough the team isn't playing attractive football but if we can go on a run like last season grinding result out then actually continuing through to next year then we will have a chance of going up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, UnitedLoon63 said: Who out there would do better job? No point going through different manager every year try stick with someone and give them a chance. We are only 2 points off top after 6 games and everyone is making a big deal out of it. Fair enough the team isn't playing attractive football but if we can go on a run like last season grinding result out then actually continuing through to next year then we will have a chance of going up Who's out there klaxon!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 minute ago, invergowrie arab said: Who's out there klaxon!! Me. I am out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 51 minutes ago, Sarto Mutiny said: Me. I am out there. You have the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottdeeuk Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 The dees kept you cuntos in your rightful place today with a 3-0 bounce game win.. I believe our young striker Henvy got two and Jon Aurtenetxe scored a screamer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 The funny fact is that all these other teams fans saying "X would be a shite appointment" or "x is a basket case" probably dont have a clue how bad we are to watch and literally how shite Mckinnon is. We scraped a draw with Brechin City at home with the manager standing on the side lines actually watching our players hoof it to a 35 odd year old 5 ft 6 ish striker who was on his own. For about 90 minuites. And thats just one example. 5 goals from 6 games. Two of which against part time teams at home. One from open play. Its more or less torture. Death by boredom stuff. I honestly think any manager could get our team fit and trying harder, well trying I should say. As much as guys like Pressley, Hartley, Hughes etc are sneered at, they would probably get this team more motivated than Football Manager 4231 Cardie Boy. Mind you, i suppose Mckinnon will turn it round after 15 months of the same tactics, play style and masterful use of substitutions. Its all change soon. Well be bang at it. Ps that isnt me saying I would go for Hughes, Pressley and Hartley before anyone thinks that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 ....they would probably.... So you're advocating spending up to £200k extra on this premise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedee Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 hours ago, mishtergrolsch said: The funny fact is that all these other teams fans saying "X would be a shite appointment" or "x is a basket case" probably dont have a clue how bad we are to watch and literally how shite Mckinnon is. + As much as guys like Pressley, Hartley, Hughes etc are sneered at, they would probably get this team more motivated than Football Manager 4231 Cardie Boy. Most of us other fans are saying X is shite because X has formerly been our manager and was in fact shite... If you're complaining about being bored to death and scoring fk all - then Hartley should give you nightmares! 20+ draws and we're still trying to recover from his shite long contract signings. (& I think its only been me thats mentioned him, but Cathro would be equally as bad or or worse) + Hughes, Butcher and Pressley are much of a muchness - they've usually managed a good season before shite signings and poor management/fall outs with players or directors seem to catch them out and they then claim they're too good for the club or Scottish game I think you're best bet would be Houston if I'm honest but is he all that much better given your history and how well he's doing at Falkirk? Anyway just the thoughts of an amused observer - do please carry on, Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Alert Mongoose said: So you're advocating spending up to £200k extra on this premise? What you're advocating is that we do nothing. McNamara should have been sacked at the end of the 14-15 season; he was kept on and we saw the consequences. McKinnon should have been sacked at the end of last season but he wasn't and we have to accept that. I was willing to cut him some slack based on his signings but the first few games of this season (including the ones we have won) show glaring weaknesses in his managerial abilities. If we want to avoid another situation comparible to Mcnamara he has to go and go soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 McKinnon should have been sacked at the end of last season but he wasn't and we have to accept that. What is the justification for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 What is the justification for this? That was never going to happen, as bad as we were. I think last year was more or less a free hit for McKinnon, the only way he was going to be sacked was if we didn't make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Sacking Ray and replacing him with Yogi would be akin to jumping out of a burning house directly into the path of an oncoming train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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