accies1874 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 If anyone thinks we're getting £1m, never mind 2 or 3, then they're delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadroj Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, accies1874 said: If anyone thinks we're getting £1m, never mind 2 or 3, then they're delusional. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 This last week or so has been very Old Firm-y: inflating what our players should go for, the folk wanting the BBC banned, and the paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyBear Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 If anyone thinks we're getting £1m, never mind 2 or 3, then they're delusional. I reckon we will be after £500K plus a bonus if he gets a game for Scotland plus 20% of any sell on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, accies1874 said: If anyone thinks we're getting £1m, never mind 2 or 3, then they're delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Docherty's been at Accies since 2005 right? He's also a Scotland u21 international. On that basis alone you'd be due a fair wedge in development fee if he were to move to another Scottish club out of contract. I'd have thought whatever that figure is, that would be Accies baseline and given he's still under contract they'd be adding a decent amount + a sell on % clause on top of that. When we laughed Hearts out the room after they offered £100k for Cadden, Robinson indicated that having done their sums the compensation that would have been due for him if he was out of contract was about £650k. IMO Accies should adding another £100k-£200k onto that sort of figure for their valuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadroj Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Id say a fee in the region of about 500 - 650k would be fair for Docherty. Any more than that is a bit mental IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Nadroj said: Id say a fee in the region of about 500 - 650k would be fair for Docherty. Any more than that is a bit mental IMO. It could be anywhere from 500 k to a million up front with add ons, McDonald is a fantastic negotiator with regards to selling products of the academy, Think he is in a strong position with the relative success the two James's have achieved down south, he can point to their continued place in teams within the EPL,it is a strong bargaining tool to have especially with English clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YER SISTERS YER MAW Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 It could be anywhere from 500 k to a million up front with add ons, McDonald is a fantastic negotiator with regards to selling products of the academy, Think he is in a strong position with the relative success the two James's have achieved down south, he can point to their continued place in teams within the EPL,it is a strong bargaining tool to have especially with English clubs. I think it depends how desperate the club are to bring money in during this window to fill the gap for the missing loot but good to see they have stood strong to Sevco"s paltry offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, YER SISTERS YER MAW said: 34 minutes ago, happyaccie said: It could be anywhere from 500 k to a million up front with add ons, McDonald is a fantastic negotiator with regards to selling products of the academy, Think he is in a strong position with the relative success the two James's have achieved down south, he can point to their continued place in teams within the EPL,it is a strong bargaining tool to have especially with English clubs. I think it depends how desperate the club are to bring money in during this window to fill the gap for the missing loot but good to see they have stood strong to Sevco"s paltry offer. Being honest with you the loss to fraud may force our hand more, but there can be no denying that we have recieved pretty much the maximum fees for the guys who went south, and I feel with McDonald negotiating any transfer we shall again accrue the maximum fee possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 £500k - £700k with a decent sell on clause sounds about right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bert Raccoon said: £500k - £700k with a decent sell on clause sounds about right to me. Think this is the most likely fee which will be coughed up to secure the services of young Docherty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 hours ago, happyaccie said: It could be anywhere from 500 k to a million up front with add ons, McDonald is a fantastic negotiator with regards to selling products of the academy, Think he is in a strong position with the relative success the two James's have achieved down south, he can point to their continued place in teams within the EPL,it is a strong bargaining tool to have especially with English clubs. They were sold almost 10 years ago, though. I'm not sure English clubs would look at two decent mid-table Premier League player and think they are a good metric for how well Docherty will do, or how much he'll cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, accies1874 said: They were sold almost 10 years ago, though. I'm not sure English clubs would look at two decent mid-table Premier League player and think they are a good metric for how well Docherty will do, or how much he'll cost. They were also key members of an FA cup winning side, but my whole point was really more about RM securing the best financial package possible as one of our starlets moves. I agree with you btw, with regards to them moving almost a decade ago bearing no relevance to Docherty's impending departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Worth a lot more than any Kilmarnock player. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Has he signed his pre contract with the **** yet btw? Or is he holding out for an English side as well. Probably has been sold the short term move to us on the back of interesting the two Glasgow teams to be honest, if not by SC then by his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpma Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Scotty Tunbridge said: Does The club Twitter calling a loan move a ‘temporary transfer’ boil anyone else’s piss? Nope. Nothing wrong with using the correct terminology IMO. I'm also great fun at parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Jack Hendry of Dundee is worth £1,500,000. Docherty is twice the player Hendry is. Docherty = Jack Hendry * 2 Jack Hendry * 2 = £3,000,000 ∴ Docherty = £3,000,000 The debate has been solved with maths. Everyone can begin to apologise starting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Mark Guidi on radio Clyde suggesting Preston are in the process of submitting a bid for Docherty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Im_Rodger said: Jack Hendry of Dundee is worth £1,500,000. Docherty is twice the player Hendry is. Docherty = Jack Hendry * 2 Jack Hendry * 2 = £3,000,000 ∴ Docherty = £3,000,000 The debate has been solved with maths. Everyone can begin to apologise starting now. Apologise for what exactly, you taking Dundee's valuation of Hendry as gospel ? Any players transfer valuation is determined by various factors, but the ultimate factor is what anyone is prepared to offer, it is then upto the parties involved to either accept or reject the offer, one thing I can almost gaurantee is Ronnie will not be receiving an e-mail offering north of 800k for Docherty. Hendry for me is only likely to attract a bid in the 200-250k region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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