Sittìng on the fence Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 7 hours ago, djchapsticks said: This is something that is constantly levelled at Livi and their management team. What's the story behind it? No idea but watched bits of the 1 st game and most of the 2nd and Martindale looked to be the man running things , could be Hopkins sets out game plans etc and feels he gets more info from just watching and leaving Martindale to keep things flowing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 You know you want to... If Jim Duffy could get us punching the same amount over our weight as he did with Morton over theirs we'd be laughing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 I hope this is the case, because all the obvious candidates seem flawed. I'm not saying we want (or can aspire to) a flawless manager, but there must be someone out there with similar qualities to Ross. Interesting from [mention=45470]RandomGuy.[/mention] about Neilson. I'd not realised Hearts fans didn't like him. Were they legit complaints, or was it akin to spending 32 years blaming another team because you failed to draw at Dundee 32 years ago? Hearts fans chased Isma tells you all you need to know. Right enough I remember some saints fans having a go at him too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Any prospect of Fowler getting it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 No idea but watched bits of the 1 st game and most of the 2nd and Martindale looked to be the man running things , could be Hopkins sets out game plans etc and feels he gets more info from just watching and leaving Martindale to keep things flowing. I'm sure it I've seen Livi fans on here saying Martindale basically runs the whole club. Maybe hopkins is his muscle in the changing room? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttocks Brown Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) Let's not assume he's away just yet.... It's not a straight swap between St Mirren and Ipswich. You have to look outside the prism of football as family comes into it too. Jack's wife Heather is a teacher and, having spent a bit of time with her through work a few years ago, she's his mirror in a lot of ways. She works in a Primary school and will no doubt have her own ambitions. Is his job to take precedence over hers? Yes, money comes into it but if you're in a school you like working in where you're respected then it's a big thing to give up. She'd be back to square one, looking for a job, building up her reputation from scratch in a country with a totally different education system. Not to mention uprooting kids from primary school and moving them away from their grandparents and friends. Edited May 13, 2018 by Buttocks Brown 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munoz Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Dunning1874 said: Any prospect of Fowler getting it? Can't see it , I think they come a package. As it stands, there is no available vacancy at present for management at our club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Any prospect of Fowler getting it? Given that Ipswich are looking for a management team, I could see Fowler joining Jack as assistant if he goes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Any prospect of Fowler getting it? No. He doesn't want to be a manager again and is keen to continue working with JR by all accounts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo87 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Clutching at straws, but also don’t think this if foregone conclusion.Few other good Ross-type candidates being interviewed, reading Shrewsbury manager is one of them, although not sure how that’s sitting with them in the middle of their playoffs. Scott Parker also been mentioned although not sure what (if any) coaching experience he has 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, Buttocks Brown said: Let's not assume he's away just yet.... This. While I am less certain that he won't go this time, I feel a lot of our support are accepting this as a "done deal". It's not, and random ex players and pundits coming out with their ever tiresome rent-a-quote doesn't help that. Lee Mair claiming Ross is destined for England, is a perfect example. You put in a decent shift in the stripes Mair, now is the time to shut the f**k up with your completely unqualified opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Any prospect of Fowler getting it? Naw. Jamie has already said that he prefers coaching to management after having tried management. Reckon he will come as a package with Jack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Some suggestions that Ipswich will be going for a European manager in the local media down there. Hopefully they do and it lets us get on with plannng for the season ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Buttocks Brown said: Let's not assume he's away just yet.... It's not a straight swap between St Mirren and Ipswich. You have to look outside the prism of football as family comes into it too. Jack's wife Heather is a teacher and, having spent a bit of time with her through work a few years ago, she's his mirror in a lot of ways. She works in a Primary school and will no doubt have her own ambitions. Is his job to take precedence over hers? Yes, money comes into it but if you're in a school you like working in where you're respected then it's a big thing to give up. She'd be back to square one, looking for a job, building up her reputation from scratch in a country with a totally different education system. Not to mention uprooting kids from primary school and moving them away from their grandparents and friends. Worth noting his Ipswich wage could very well be more than their current combined wage. Stevie May more than quadrupled his wage when he left us, and got a signing on fee near £100k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Worth noting his Ipswich wage could very well be more than their current combined wage. Stevie May more than quadrupled his wage when he left us, and got a signing on fee near £100k. I'd imagine it'd be considerably more. I wouldn't be surprised if English Championship clubs were paying half a million a year to their managers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttocks Brown Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Worth noting his Ipswich wage could very well be more than their current combined wage. Mrs Ross, if unpromoted, will be at the top of the classroom teacher's pay scale which is £36,840. Yes, his pay rise would supersede the immediate loss of that but they're in the top few % of earners as it is. How much cash and the ambition of one half of a relationship is enough to make you uproot your family? Edited May 13, 2018 by Buttocks Brown 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, houston_bud said: I'd imagine it'd be considerably more. I wouldn't be surprised if English Championship clubs were paying half a million a year to their managers. Definitely. Alex Neil is seemingly earning over half a million a year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buttocks Brown said: Mrs Ross, if unpromoted, will be at the top of the classroom teacher's pay scale which is £36,840. Yes, his pay rise would supersede the immediate loss of that but they're in the top few % of earners as it is. How much cash and the ambition of one half of a relationship is enough to make you uproot your family? You're deluding yourself. He could be offered a four year deal worth around £2m with a signing on bonus worth hundreds of thousands. I don't know anything about him or his family to know their situation, but I'd be surprised if they turned it down. Knowing women, I doubt he'd even be having interviews if they hadn't agreed he could move down there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttocks Brown Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: I doubt he'd even be having interviews if they hadn't agreed he could move down there. Why not? That's quite possibly what happened with Barnsley 2 months ago. Had a chat with them then said he didn't want to move. Seemingly he was never going to take the job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Definitely. Alex Neil is seemingly earning over half a million a year. And he's a horrible wee goblin, whereas Jack is an absolute dreamboat so could surely demand even more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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