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2 minutes ago, RiG said:

It's The Daily Express what do you expect? They are nothing more than a Tory/Brexit propaganda piece.

Last week they had an article about Owen Jones who appeared on Question Time. The headline was "Audience ROARS as Owen Jones is SILENCED by David Dimbleby after going on a rant on Question Time".

The accompanying video showed nothing of the sort. Jones was asked to hurry up by Dimbleby and about two people quietly chuckled. That was it. Papers like the Express and the Mail are atrociously bad.

Donald Trump invented the words "fake" and "news" to describe exactly these types of publication. Is it the Express that copy and pastes the same "worst winter EVAAARRRRRRR!!!!" story every year, and has an obsession with Princess Diana communicating from beyond the grave?

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31 minutes ago, RiG said:

It's The Daily Express what do you expect? They are nothing more than a Tory/Brexit propaganda piece.

Last week they had an article about Owen Jones who appeared on Question Time. The headline was "Audience ROARS as Owen Jones is SILENCED by David Dimbleby after going on a rant on Question Time".

The accompanying video showed nothing of the sort. Jones was asked to hurry up by Dimbleby and about two people quietly chuckled. That was it. Papers like the Express and the Mail are atrociously bad.

Throughout the UK , apart from the Red Tops such as the The Sun, Daily Mirror, Daily Star, Daily Record etc, the majority of newspapers are Tory.

The Scottish Provincial Press which owns 14 weekly newspapers throughout the Highlands, including the Inverness Courier and Highland News and  covers areas  from the north of Fort William to Banffshire on the East and includes The John O Groats Journal to the Banffshire Herald, is totally Tory and backs them to the hilt on the run up to any election as witnessed in pro Tory articles and items on their letters pages.

Provincial newspapers like to shop window themselves as politically neutral which is far from the truth.

Buy the National which doesn't hide it's politics. 

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I'm not sure the Tory press down south have appreciated the significance of the UK being led by a homosexual female. It's a potentially huge development but how would it go down with the core Tory demographic?

So far the attitude seems to be "she hates the SNP which is fine by us."

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Lurkst said:

I'm not sure the Tory press down south have appreciated the significance of the UK being led by a homosexual female. It's a potentially huge development but how would it go down with the core Tory demographic?

So far the attitude seems to be "she hates the SNP which is fine by us."

 

 

 

It's a real dilemma for hardcore Tories. Do they hate the idea of Scottish sovereignty more than they hate minorities?

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1 hour ago, NotThePars said:

The Sun and the Daily Star are right wing as hell.

You are correct that in the past that The Sun was always right wing but in 1997 it came out for Labour under Tony Blair and  remained so in Blair's next two elections.

Since then it  backed David Cameron, however since the News of the World phone hacking scandal the Tories have distanced themselves from the Sun and Murdoch, possible prompted by Camerons closeness to the red haired female editor, the Sun has responded  recently with criticisms of the Tory Leadership, so not is all as it seems.

I know little of The Daily Star other than it's owned by the very rich Richard Desmond of the Daily Express and Channel 5, so I looked him and found that in 2015 he gave £300,000 to the UK Independance party, so who knows his politics.

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You are correct that in the past that The Sun was always right wing but in 1997 it came out for Labour under Tony Blair and  remained so in Blair's next two elections.
Since then it  backed David Cameron, however since the News of the World phone hacking scandal the Tories have distanced themselves from the Sun and Murdoch, possible prompted by Camerons closeness to the red haired female editor, the Sun has responded  recently with criticisms of the Tory Leadership, so not is all as it seems.
I know little of The Daily Star other than it's owned by the very rich Richard Desmond of the Daily Express and Channel 5, so I looked him and found that in 2015 he gave £300,000 to the UK Independance party, so who knows his politics.


Right but the Blair years were hardly a bastion of socialism while you only have to look at succession of scare stories and near smear the Sun has written about Corbyn to see where their loyalties lie these days.
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24 minutes ago, Crossbill said:

The press are unlikely to give her a free pass like they do in Scotland.

Your kidding Corbyn  tore May to shreds every week before the last election, but reading the press you would have thought it was the other way about. It wasn't until the election was called and more people actually paid attention and saw for themselves that the perception of Corbyn and May started to change.

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Ruth in a safe seat will generate little amusement up here but she's being touted for greatness and that's when the fun will begin - she won't be able to hide if she's given a job and will face Emma Barnett style probing fairly often  ... even the Express can't polish a turd that much.

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If she went, you'd assume she'd give up the Edinburgh seat she has. Last time out the Tories snuck through the middle of a sizeable Green constituency vote on one side and the SNP on the other. Would be an interesting  byelection, and a big boost for the SNP to win in those conditions.

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Is this a joke? Davidson is no great shakes at these things but Corbyn is fucking useless at PMQ's most weeks. Much more likely to get "torn to shreds" by Nicky in the Scot Gov.


Obviously this is all subjective and prone to looking with tinted glasses but I don't see how this is accurate. Most political commentators, who are loathe to credit Labour, have acknowledged that he's been out manoeuvring May these past few weeks and even when they're criticising him like this last week for inexplicably focusing on tax havens, they're all discussing that very thing days later when a sudden leak proves him right to focus on it. The only thing I will say in Davidson's theoretical defence is that nobody outside of political obsessives bother their arse to care about PMQs and FMQs.
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39 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

 

 


Obviously this is all subjective and prone to looking with tinted glasses but I don't see how this is accurate. Most political commentators, who are loathe to credit Labour, have acknowledged that he's been out manoeuvring May these past few weeks and even when they're criticising him like this last week for inexplicably focusing on tax havens, they're all discussing that very thing days later when a sudden leak proves him right to focus on it. The only thing I will say in Davidson's theoretical defence is that nobody outside of political obsessives bother their arse to care about PMQs and FMQs.

 

I suppose I am a political obsessive then as I watch both each week.

I am also a fan of Corbyn's moral view's on quite a few issues, so I have no axe to grind with the chap. However the amount of ammo he's had on both Cameron and May, he hasn't made half the dent on them in debate than someone like Sturgeon would make. Corbyn's a campaigner that's what he's good at, he's shite at PMQ type things. I obviously follow different political commentators to you, as I think most would agree with my viewpoint.

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6 hours ago, Lurkst said:

I'm not sure the Tory press down south have appreciated the significance of the UK being led by a homosexual female. It's a potentially huge development but how would it go down with the core Tory demographic?

So far the attitude seems to be "she hates the SNP which is fine by us."

 

 

 

I don't think it would go down very well

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