liam_barnett Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 TNS v Crusaders final still possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 All set for an ICT v Dumbarton final at Hampden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverton End Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Tough one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Cool, I'll leave the QOS and Dumbarton fans to glamorise this diddy cup everything is rosey. That's completely irrelevant to the discussion. FWIW I couldn't care about the Challenge Cup and therefore wouldn't travel 3 hours to go and watch QoS play in it. If you hate the competition that much why would you bother to do that? Surely a total boycott of the games would make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 hours ago, liam_barnett said: TNS v Crusaders final still possible Is there any neutral outside of SPFL Headquarters who doesn't want this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 hours ago, btb said: Is there any neutral outside of SPFL Headquarters who doesn't want this? The Queen of the South fans have firmly stuck their colours to the Sons mast. The Hibs lads will no doubt have our backs too. Mon in, btb, the water's lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I’m only against having U20s sides in the competition. Not bothered at all about the Welsh, Northern Irish and Republic of Irish sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I’m only against having U20s sides in the competition. Not bothered at all about the Welsh, Northern Irish and Republic of Irish sides. Why are you against U20s but not foreign sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, The Moonster said: The Queen of the South fans have firmly stuck their colours to the Sons mast. The Hibs lads will no doubt have our backs too. Mon in, btb, the water's lovely. It's nothing personal, it's just that a non-Scottish final would be a slap on the back of the head for the SPFL chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Why are you against U20s but not foreign sides? Because it is demeaning to have an U20’s side play against a first team. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Because it is demeaning to have an U20’s side play against a first team. IMO An Under 20s side is never going to win this competition. There is a very good chance a foreign side could win it. I find that far more embarrassing for our game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 6 hours ago, RiG said: All set for an ICT v Dumbarton final at Hampden. Doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreElgin Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 All set for an ICT v Dumbarton final at Hampden. Scottish football is in a bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikos K Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Has anyone said where the final is to be or is that dependant on who the finalists are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Has anyone said where the final is to be or is that dependant on who the finalists are? The latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 18 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: An Under 20s side is never going to win this competition. There is a very good chance a foreign side could win it. I find that far more embarrassing for our game. There is no point inviting them if they're not going to have an impact on the competition. I have no issue with the foreign sides being in, and I also don't see that it would be an embarrassment if they win it. These are the top sides in their respective countries, whereas we play in the second tier in ours. The U20s element is a farce though, get that to f**k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 There is no point inviting them if they're not going to have an impact on the competition. I have no issue with the foreign sides being in, and I also don't see that it would be an embarrassment if they win it. These are the top sides in their respective countries, whereas we play in the second tier in ours. The U20s element is a farce though, get that to f**k. I agree with the 20s FWIW, I just think both are equally as farcical. It would be embarassing that a side outwith Scotland win a Scottish cup IMO. The only thing the foreign teams bring to the cup is the chance of a day out. They don't exactly add to the attendances at home games (Linfield being the possible exception as they have the draw of being the Irish The Rangers). I imagine TNS's attendance on Sunday was one of the best they'll have but that doesn't exactly benefit us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Yes, but by definition the minute you invite foreign teams, it no longer becomes a "Scottish" competition. (Obviously it's run by the SPFL). It's now a competition for 4 countries. Linfield and TNS are clearly of a similar standard to our 2nd tier teams so there's a non-zero possibility they could win it. I'm ok with that tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Yes, but by definition the minute you invite foreign teams, it no longer becomes a "Scottish" competition. (Obviously it's run by the SPFL). It's now a competition for 4 countries. Linfield and TNS are clearly of a similar standard to our 2nd tier teams so there's a non-zero possibility they could win it. I'm ok with that tbh. Bizarrely enough I was thinking if they scrapped the Challenge Cup and started a new one with a new name that was inclusive of other nations, I wouldn't have an issue with it even if it was run by the SPFL. I just take issue with it being a Scottish cup. I'm not sure who would be interested but if they did reboot it I would be inclined to invite some English sides as well. Even with all that I still don't think the attendances would be any better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 That's an interesting point, and I presume the Challenge Cup could have been reactivated if the other version failed. I'd not be interested in having English sides enter though. We'd either be scraping around for entrants from the Blue Square Conference GM Vauxhall Motors National League of losers, or it'd be reserve sides from nobodies like Port Vale or Crawley. Urgh. I'm definitely in team ICT to win it this time though. Actually the Dumbartonians would do me as well as they've never won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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