jagfox Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Why are Stranraer playing this tonight?? Their road is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Thistle should have chartered a large dinghy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue1870 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Road closed girvan to cairnryan from 8pm. Journey back will be a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayhole Blue Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Mattmc said: Is it acceptable for Stranraer fans to attend? Game should be played at some Junior ground in Glasgow. Save Stranraer the expense of bussing our players down the road and the cost of floodlights etc. Also save any hassle with the road closure. No matter what the outcome of tonight's match is, it's the kind of fixture which seriously devalues this competition. Yes, it's only the Challenge Cup, but it was set up for clubs outwith the top league to give them an opportunity to possibly win a national tournament. The club are publicising the fact that reduced entrance fees apply tonight, but, seriously, £10 to watch a youth team? And, not for the first time, we have arranged a match which clashes with a Scotland game on TV. Hope we progress, but, that apart, I have no interest in this tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Worth nothing that Raith's chairman complained they lost money on hosting Brora Rangers in R1, albeit with the caveat the money was lost partially because season ticket holders get in for free. But there's no way we'd have had 900 or so there if they didn't. We'll lose money again on Saturday against Ross County Colts. How much longer can this shite continue? serious question - can teams refuse to play in the tournament, and if they did what is the likely punishment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 49 minutes ago, Paco said: Worth nothing that Raith's chairman complained they lost money on hosting Brora Rangers in R1, albeit with the caveat the money was lost partially because season ticket holders get in for free. But there's no way we'd have had 900 or so there if they didn't. We'll lose money again on Saturday against Ross County Colts. How much longer can this shite continue? serious question - can teams refuse to play in the tournament, and if they did what is the likely punishment? No they can't and therefore the punishment part is not applicable. They could of course not take it seriously and field their 20's etc. There is an obligation to field within reason their strongest sides so there would be some sort of penalty undoubtedly if they did. You could of course NOT let season ticket holders in for free and charge them to attend. Half as many paying is less likely to result in a loss than pretty much none of them doing so. It is theoretically possible you could lose money hosting the tie in that event although I'd be surprised if you did so including the prize money for taking part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Paco said: Worth nothing that Raith's chairman complained they lost money on hosting Brora Rangers in R1, albeit with the caveat the money was lost partially because season ticket holders get in for free. But there's no way we'd have had 900 or so there if they didn't. We'll lose money again on Saturday against Ross County Colts. How much longer can this shite continue? serious question - can teams refuse to play in the tournament, and if they did what is the likely punishment? You were always going to lose money but letting season ticket holders in as part of their ticket. You would have to give Brora 40% of what a season ticket holder would have paid for admission. Good idea for boosting the crowd but always going to be a financial hit as SD says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 For me the only attraction is seeing Linfield on a new ground against an opponent we have never played before. If we were playing a Colts team I would be less than enthused, although I would still go for the aforementioned reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MacLean Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Skyline Drifter said: No they can't and therefore the punishment part is not applicable. They could of course not take it seriously and field their 20's etc. There is an obligation to field within reason their strongest sides so there would be some sort of penalty undoubtedly if they did. You could of course NOT let season ticket holders in for free and charge them to attend. Half as many paying is less likely to result in a loss than pretty much none of them doing so. It is theoretically possible you could lose money hosting the tie in that event although I'd be surprised if you did so including the prize money for taking part. I'm sure Clyde fielded what couldn't have been too far away from being an under 20 side when humped by Thistle Colts in last season's competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 48 minutes ago, John MacLean said: I'm sure Clyde fielded what couldn't have been too far away from being an under 20 side when humped by Thistle Colts in last season's competition. I think you are right. Can't remember if any action was taken about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Don't understand how a governing body can tell any club which players they're allowed to select. If they're registered as players then should be no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Wasp Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Don't understand how a governing body can tell any club which players they're allowed to select. If they're registered as players then should be no issue. They can in England. Several clubs were fined last year for fielding weakened teams in the Checkatrade Trophy. Thankfully, to my knowledge, no such rule is in force here, but I would imagine SPFL could fine clubs if they wanted to impose one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, English Wasp said: They can in England. Several clubs were fined last year for fielding weakened teams in the Checkatrade Trophy. Thankfully, to my knowledge, no such rule is in force here, but I would imagine SPFL could fine clubs if they wanted to impose one. I can't find a news story confirming it, but I think Dundee were fined for this in 2006? They played a Scottish Cup replay which went to extra time on a Thursday night against Hamilton and for some reason their weekend league game wasn't moved to the Sunday, meaning they had to play two games in three days. As a result, Alan Kernaghan put the youth team out on the Saturday and they lost 7-0 to Airdrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steakngravy Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Rovers got fined in the Jimmy Nicholl era for alledgedly fielding an understrength side against Ferranti Thistlle sorry Meadowbank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Crusaders at 13/10 to beat Motherwell Colts. If the Crues put a team out to win this is a good price. £30 on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Allan McGraw once put out a very weakened team out at home to Falkirk (lost 2-0) because we had a Scottish Cup Quarter Final against Kilmarnock four days later. The press made noises about possible fines - he replied "I'm the manager, no-one tells me what team to pick". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrman2011 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Looking forward to all this today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 7 hours ago, sureiknow said: Crusaders at 13/10 to beat Motherwell Colts. If the Crues put a team out to win this is a good price. £30 on. Crusaders game v Linfield on Wednesday now cancelled/postponed to a later date, so they should/could field a strong side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Audaces Fortuna Juvat said: Crusaders game v Linfield on Wednesday now cancelled/postponed to a later date, so they should/could field a strong side. Be good to see both putting out a full team against well and Spartans though they both will gave the League in mind long term owing to the European cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Arbroath not playing and a United home game, would usually be there, but not one of my mates that usually go home and away are attending today. Sums it up. Crowds could be interesting today. Raith v Ross County under 20s for example. See them as similar sized clubs... St Mirrens first team playing Hearts under 20s too..Aberdeen under 20s v Inverness..Hamilton under 20s v Cove could potentially be a poorer crowd than Dundee 20s v Alloa last round..Crusaders over evens to beat Motherwell under 20s by the way? Surely worth a punt. Linfield should surely beat Spartans but it would be hilarious if they didn't. No idea what will happen with the other ties v teams from different leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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