HibeeJibee Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Already threads on next season's Scottish and League cups so this completes the set. Brora's chairman writes regular pieces on their website. In his latest one - after scathing criticism of the North of Scotland Cup the Final of which they've just reached! - he discusses arrangements for next season's Irn Bru Cup.http://brorarangers.football/2017/05/08/a-final-awaits/ He says: * there will be 1 midweek round (this season there were 2) on Wed 16th Aug; * 'B' teams continue and can now field over-age players; * confirms 2 Eire clubs added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 So the answer to b teams being utterly spanked and nobody watch them is to make the situation worse?Good one Doncaster you w**k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Absolutely ridiculous. Can't wait to hear them try to spin how this is good for youth development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 f**k the challenge cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I admire Cowdenbeath for the stance that have taken with the competition. They are so much against it that they had decided to get out of the league structure as quick as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Oracle Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I think I speak for everyone when I say I hope all of the B teams get papped out early doors, and preferably in an excruciatingly embarrassing manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm still slightly embarrassed that we won this minter of a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Total joke letting the premiership teams field overage players, the whole point of the challenge cup is to let lower division teams win a cup so the fans can have a wee day out at a cup final. Top division sides shouldn't even be in the cup. No doubt more and more over age players will get in until they get what they want another Old Firm final. Not keen on the Irish and Welsh teams being in but I guess it gives lower division teams a wee European adventure and they are hardly world beaters we are letting in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 f**k this shit. Hopefully we can get out of it at the first hurdle and concentrate on proper competitions. Good luck to the Premiership sides, with all the amazing player development and phree muneez that you'll be receiving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrman2011 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Great idea allowing the bigger teams to field over aged players Wonder how many teams will be involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 On 09/05/2017 at 08:37, BigFatTabbyDave said: phree muneez that you'll be receiving Don't forget the boxes of Strathmore Water!!!! If previous criteria apply to NI and Welsh teams, the invited sides will be Linfield, Crusaders, TNS Llansantffraid, Connah's Quay Nomads, Sligo Rovers and Bray Wanderers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Seriously, Overage players? Wasn't the point of allowing U21 teams to allow the U21 players to play against fully developed players in competitive games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 37 minutes ago, senorsoupe said: Seriously, Overage players? Wasn't the point of allowing U21 teams to allow the U21 players to play against fully developed players in competitive games? Like everything the seem to do their just copying the EFL who had over age players in the under 23 sides for the Trophy games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 And look how well that went down! Hopefully Falkirk get a wee trip to Wales out of this; otherwise sack this for a lark. I love(d) the Challenge Cup, but they're ruining everything. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 33 minutes ago, cowdenbeath said: Like everything the seem to do their just copying the EFL who had over age players in the under 23 sides for the Trophy games. Of course, like here, generally the 'B' teams were badly received by fans and dreadful crowds occurred. There was also an organised 'boycott' campaign. However unlike here it would seem the EFL clubs might get rid of them, after saying it was only a 1-season experiment. Voting is actually taking place today on continuing for another season then review again; going back to the old format (48 actual clubs straight knockout); or keeping the group format but without the 'B' teams. Oxford, Walsall and Chesterfield have announced they voted to get rid of the B teams, whilst Notts County and Peterborough confirm they voted for another year. Not sure when results are announced or how calculated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only one David Marsh Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I still think they are using this to eventually allow colt teams into the league but again fans need to boycott this monstrosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingboots Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 What are the numbers like in the competition (number of teams)? Do they need B teams for the extra round(s) due to extra teams from Wales/NI/Eire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 I don't really follow you - but it's not "all-in" without byes, thus no need to fill-out some places to make 32 or 64; and if it was they could just invite more Highland and Lowland clubs in. Last season this was the arrangement:* R1 ... 8 SPFL2, 4 Highland, 4 Lowland, 12 'B' teams * R2 ... 8 SPFL1, 2 SPFL2 join * R3 ... 10 Championship, 2 SPFL1 join * R4 (Last 16) ... 2 Northern Irish, 2 Welsh join Oddly enough they could have had entire divisions enter at the same round, if they had invited the 5th place finishers from Highland / Lowland; but for whatever reason they went with staggering 1st & 2nd in SPFL1 and SPFL2. So clearly fairly drawn-out and fairly arbitrary. Of course inviting 2 teams from Eire and putting them in at R4 would mean having to push numerous clubs in R3 / R2 back a round, too. However given what the Brora chairman says about only 1 midweek round and the weekends I wonder if they're making the non-Scottish teams join at what's currently R3 (becoming R2) which would become a Last 32? Even if so that would leave 8 too many entrants if the 10 Championship clubs continued joining at the same stage: they would have to give 8 clubs or 'B' teams the chop, or put all bar 2 Championship teams in at what's currently R2 (becoming R1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Take it the ultimate aim here is Rangers v Celtic final aye? Count me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSAFC Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 What an absolute shambles of a competition, hope we field a weakened team again if we face a "colt" team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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