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Polling: 2017 General Election, Council Elections and Independence

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Just now, dogmc said:


Not sure anyone outside of the labour party right wing saw milliband as a viable pm tbh.

He was a senior part of the old Labour Government (and a lot of his backroom team were) and consistently ahead of Cameron in quite a lot of polls on a personal level and the party were leading by many metrics in days leading up to polling day. Despite his ridicule, it was seen as quite likely that he could be forming the next government and the prospect of him as a PM was in the public consciousness as the election was set to be very close (and internal polling was strong enough that the final result was a sickening shock to the party).

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This was always happening since the Labour Party imploded in Scotland and veered left in England.If people return a NO at another referendum maybe the SNP need to take a wee look at themselves and the "fanboys" think about their denigration of anyone holding anything other than a 100% YES opinion.I could see this situation coming a mile off.Labour fails and the SNP fail in their big policy for a second time "game over".


^^^ word salad

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4 hours ago, Loondave1 said:


This was always happening since the Labour Party imploded in Scotland and veered left in England.If people return a NO at another referendum maybe the SNP need to take a wee look at themselves and the "fanboys" think about their denigration of anyone holding anything other than a 100% YES opinion.I could see this situation coming a mile off.Labour fails and the SNP fail in their big policy for a second time "game over".

This post has convinced me that my only option is to vote labour.

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Panelbase sub sample has Labour on 10% :o  

 

Possible YouGov poll tonight, unless it's another private poll

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If the Tories win a whacking majority, push through with a Hard Brexit, move further to the right punishing the most vulnerable in our society and Scotland still votes No at the next referendum then hell mend us.
Our complete Diddy of a Nation would deserve the decades of misery that would follow. 


If this does happen, I'd quite happily see the SNP chuck it and let the Tories and Labour try to run Scotland. We'd all be fucked anyway and it'd be a bit of a laugh seeing Kez and the Mooth actually having to do something.

Willie Rennie will still be irrelevant.

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Local councillor did so well up until this point.

He does make a few valid points in his leaflet, but I find him a bit of a prat so I'll be voting him out.

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Bit depressing this poll.

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Dunno why they are putting holds underneath the title of 'Seats due to change hands'

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41% for the SNP aint great for them. If the Tories are anywhere close to the SNP last time, they'll fancy their chances of nicking the seat. 

Invergowrie Arab seemed confident a few ago about the SNP's prospects in Perth. I'm still not convinced, considering the tankings the majorities took during the Holyrood elections in those constituencies and that was with far less seethe inducing candidates than Wishart.

 

Edited by Kyle

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3 hours ago, Sunrise said:

Bit depressing this poll.

I would treat that with a pinch of salt.  I'm dubious about those Labour/ Libdem increases.

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41% for the SNP aint great for them. If the Tories are anywhere close to the SNP last time, they'll fancy their chances of nicking the seat. 
Invergowrie Arab seemed confident a few ago about the SNP's prospects in Perth. I'm still not convinced, considering the tankings the majorities took during the Holyrood elections in those constituencies and that was with far less seethe inducing candidates than Wishart.
 



I'm confident that he'll still be here.

Unlike our areas tory MSP's Wishart is always in perth and holding surgeries.

Angus Robertson will also retain his seat Im_rodger, you disgusting rape apologist.

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On 4/26/2017 at 08:28, Karl Fletcher said:

If the Tories win a whacking majority, push through with a Hard Brexit, move further to the right punishing the most vulnerable in our society and Scotland still votes No at the next referendum then hell mend us.

Our complete Diddy of a Nation would deserve the decades of misery that would follow. 

Speak for yourself.

We are not a diddy nation by any manner of speaking and almost nobody in this country lives in misery now or is facing decades of misery in the future whether we vote Yes or No.

The majority of people appear to be reasonably content with their lot. There will always be people who need temporary help and there will always be people who live completely chaotic lives regardless of the reason for it. For the vast majority, life is fine.

It is worth repeating this because the message doesn't seem to be getting through. See all this lefty bollox about the poor "being punished"?

Almost nobody in mainstream society agrees with this ultra left wing assessment of what the Tories are doing. In all my years, I have never met a single person in real life who talks like this and I have worked amongst all classes.

If you want to be taken seriously outside this forum you might need to rethink your analysis. You guys are just talking to yourselves.

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The Economist's take on this whole election decision is that with an increased majority May could afford to marginalise the turbobrexit Tories and get on with negotiating a more sensible compromise.

 

They may(no pun intended) be right

 

 

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