Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 You’ll have to narrow that down: which one? Good point.Both, imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: That's incredible. Maybot could set fire to a guide dog live on TV and folk will still prefer her to Corbyn. Absolute shambles of a politician. Yes, but was it a pesky foreign dog taking the jobs of our own proud guide dogs... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I've always said Corbyn has a very limited shelf life. May and the Tories had a disastrous election campaign in the last Westminster election and he still couldn't win. Corbyn won't face May next time that's for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Colkitto said: I've always said Corbyn has a very limited shelf life. May and the Tories had a disastrous election campaign in the last Westminster election and he still couldn't win. Corbyn won't face May next time that's for sure. Maybe Labour can get the enigmatic Keir Hardy to stand against her. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Ipsos-Mori for STV News Independence vote Yes: 46% No: 50% Don't know: 4% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Colkitto said: Ipsos-Mori for STV News Independence vote Yes: 46% No: 50% Don't know: 4% 48/52 ex dks..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 48/52 ex dks..... That's cause f**k all has happened yet. Wait til we fall off the brexit cliff next year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, renton said: 48/52 ex dks..... A statistical draw. Very much all to play for and winnable! Edited March 14, 2018 by Colkitto 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 53 minutes ago, renton said: 48/52 ex dks..... Not a bad starting point. If we don't manage it after the Brexit deal becomes clear, we never will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 48/52 ex dks..... Better than i thought it would be. Once people really start to realise how bad things are going to be especially with a no deal scenario then we might see yes level. I still think Nicola sturgeon has a duty to hold a 2nd referendum even though the result may not go her way. The SNP were voted in with that mandate. They may be afraid to do it as a 2nd no vote could be fatal but for me they are duty bound to hold one, mainly due to the significant change in direction the UK has taken(not to mention the mountain of broken promises). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB 4.2 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 and a swing from Tory to SNP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just a matter of time, really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Baxter Parp said: Just a matter of time, really. It does suggest that it's the 35-54 bracket where Yes needs to do most of it's work. Edited March 14, 2018 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 21:29, Colkitto said: I've always said Corbyn has a very limited shelf life. May and the Tories had a disastrous election campaign in the last Westminster election and he still couldn't win. Corbyn won't face May next time that's for sure. I think Corbyn is a cool guy and would like a pint with him but it's absolutely embarrassing when you people like Seamus Milne in a real position of power in his team. The guys pretty much taking Kremlin talking points and regurgitating it in parliament today FFS. I'm not taking the piss when I say that if Gordon Brown was still a backbencher, I think he'd be quite a credible candidate for the leadership and win a General Election very comfortably. That's saying quite a lot as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, harry94 said: I think Corbyn is a cool guy and would like a pint with him but it's absolutely embarrassing when you people like Seamus Milne in a real position of power in his team. The guys pretty much taking Kremlin talking points and regurgitating it in parliament today FFS. I'm not taking the piss when I say that if Gordon Brown was still a backbencher, I think he'd be quite a credible candidate for the leadership and win a General Election very comfortably. That's saying quite a lot as well. Don’t be ridiculous. Only the tribal, backward Scots worship at the altar of Brown. Our more intelligent southern neighbours saw through him long ago. The media has told you this, silly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Antlion said: Don’t be ridiculous. Only the tribal, backward Scots worship at the altar of Brown. Our more intelligent southern neighbours saw through him long ago. The media has told you this, silly. And he is blind in one eye with severe nerve damage that fucked up his facial muscles - dour one-eyed Scottish c**t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Rehabilitating Gordon Brown now? Fucking hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Rehabilitating Gordon Brown now? Fucking hell. He was a good Prime Minister (well not in the 21st century appearance way) and Chancellor. I haven't seen a coherent argument to the contrary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 He was a good Prime Minister (well not in the 21st century appearance way) and Chancellor. I haven't seen a coherent argument to the contrary. Counterpoint: He wasn’t a good PM in an apparently substance first 20th century way either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, NotThePars said: Counterpoint: He wasn’t a good PM in an apparently substance first 20th century way either. With the immediate challenges he faced, he handled things fairly well. I don't think many people realise just how toothless the powers western governments actually had to stop the insane banking shitfest at that time. It was all about stimulus and he played this game very well, going back to 2001 well before the collapse actually happened. A lot of idiots like to play the whole 'he should have collapsed the banks and re-regulated the economy' as if it wouldn't have plunged hundreds of thousands of people into poverty (which would have been loved by certain characters who would further consolidate their power in this way). The worst thing he did in his career (and probably life) was his 'deal' with Blair. He ended up being duped into playing by his rules which haunted him badly when he become a PM in his own right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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