NotThePars Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Alex salmond said it, does that mean if Nicola sturgeon says something about holding a referendum we can just ignore it? He's also since clarified on Twitter what he meant by it. It's utterly pointless to keep bringing it up. The SNP committed another referendum after a material change in circumstances in their manifesto and people voted for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Alex salmond said it, does that mean if Nicola sturgeon says something about holding a referendum we can just ignore it? You explicitly stated "The SNP" had said it.If you don't get the difference you're either trolling, or monumentally stupid. I suspect a little of column A and a little of column B in your case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I can just about understand trolls who come on here and try to portray themselves as clever guys when they're obviously not. I just don't get the ones who come on her and effectively go "Look at me, I'm an idiot". How can someone be so desperate for attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Don't know if you've noticed but we've been back there for years. It is going go get worse. Thatcher years were worse than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, NotThePars said: He's also since clarified on Twitter what he meant by it. It's utterly pointless to keep bringing it up. The SNP committed another referendum after a material change in circumstances in their manifesto and people voted for it. He clarified on March 2017, after Nicola had issued her ultimatum about holding another referendum. His clarification might have held a little more weight if he'd issued it in 2014 i.e. When he's said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: You explicitly stated "The SNP" had said it. If you don't get the difference you're either trolling, or monumentally stupid. I suspect a little of column A and a little of column B in your case. So if a Tory says something daft about the poor, you'd say it was that person and not the Tory party saying it? Aye right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I can just about understand trolls who come on here and try to portray themselves as clever guys when they're obviously not. I just don't get the ones who come on her and effectively go "Look at me, I'm an idiot". How can someone be so desperate for attention? Loads of man, no ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: It is going go get worse. Thatcher years were worse than this Can't agree, I lived through the Thatcher years and people on benefits were never persecuted as much as this. If it gets worse, we'll have to reference an earlier era of comparative evil. Maybe around the time of the corn laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, sparky88 said: So if a Tory says something daft about the poor, you'd say it was that person and not the Tory party saying it? Aye right. Is it Tory policy to say daft things about the poor? "Once In A Generation" was never SNP policy nor an SNP promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 So if a Tory says something daft about the poor, you'd say it was that person and not the Tory party saying it? Aye right. Little tip for you. Trolling doesn't work properly when you make yourself look like an absolute thicko in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Can't agree, I lived through the Thatcher years and people on benefits were never persecuted as much as this. If it gets worse, we'll have to reference an earlier era of comparative evil. Maybe around the time of the corn laws. I think it's difficult to compare the two at this stage but we still have the possibility of a further 5 years at least of May. 3 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Is it Tory policy to say daft things about the poor? "Once In A Generation" was never SNP policy nor an SNP promise. It would be easier if we just admitted that Salmond did not have a mandate to make his "once in a generation" remark. No politician has such a mandate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Baxter Parp said: Is it Tory policy to say daft things about the poor? "Once In A Generation" was never SNP policy nor an SNP promise. It's a policy in neither case, is it therefore unimportant that it was said? Should we just ignore salmond or just the things that the SNP want us to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, sparky88 said: Alex salmond said it, does that mean if Nicola sturgeon says something about holding a referendum we can just ignore it? I thought about starting a list of the things that Ruth Davidson has said and then done, or said, the exact opposite but I soon realised that there's not enough room on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, sparky88 said: It's a policy in neither case, is it therefore unimportant that it was said? Should we just ignore salmond or just the things that the SNP want us to ignore. He clearly said "In my opinion" and opinions don't make policy. The yoons wanting to imply that Salmond made some kind of binding promise that would make SNP policy for forty years are just grasping at idiotic straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: He clearly said "In my opinion" and opinions don't make policy. The yoons wanting to imply that Salmond made some kind of binding promise that would make SNP policy for forty years are just grasping at idiotic straws. What things that salmond has said should we pay attention to, if it isn't his once in a generation statement? Would you be able to offer some sort of guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The people of Scotland don't want another divisive referendum General Election.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, sparky88 said: What things that salmond has said should we pay attention to, if it isn't his once in a generation statement? Would you be able to offer some sort of guide? What things that May and Davidson have said can we pay attention to? I'm not even convinced that Davidson is using her real name . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Salmond doesn't half get under the skin of unionists. Why so scared of a referendum? Why not accept that brexit totally changed the political landscape? It's almost as if unionists don't believe the arguments in favour of staying in the UK are credible.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bojangles Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, sparky88 said: What things that salmond has said should we pay attention to, if it isn't his once in a generation statement? Would you be able to offer some sort of guide? Just ignore the times he expressly says he is sharing a personal opinion. A good example would be when he said "In my opinion, and it is just my opinion, this is a once in a generation opportunity for Scotland." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, sparky88 said: What things that salmond has said should we pay attention to, if it isn't his once in a generation statement? Would you be able to offer some sort of guide? Are you unable to discern between party policy and personal opinion even when it's baldly pointed out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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