Savage Henry Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, renton said: Perhaps, I guess it's about perspective. Self described left wing parties control 3 quarters of Scottish seats. That the Tories have had a signficant revival up here is withput a doubt, but they are still a minority at every level of Scottish governance, in contrast to England. It's very complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, The Real Saints said: Can't wait for the next election. I imagine that most Conservative voters will be dead by then. Expecting some cold weather in the next moth or so then lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Lex said: All this talk of a disaster for The Conservatives nationally. It wasn't the result we wanted clearly, but we are still comfortably the largest party. For comparison purposes, the Tories lost 12 seats across the UK. The SNP lost 21 in Scotland. May called the election on the basis of her majority not being big enough, of requiring a bigger personal mandate to prevent the opposition from derailing Brexit. She created the conditions for success against which she must ultimately be judged harshly, having voluntarily thrown away the first Tory majority since '92. The SNP are hurt by this result but not greviously so. They are still the biggest party, they still have a majority of seats. And if after all that Corbyn surge and kids coming put to vote, the Tories still rule, abetted by the DUP bigots, well, that's not a bad thing for Indy in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, The Real Saints said: Can't wait for the next election. I imagine that most Conservative voters will be dead by then. Good chance it'll be in two months. Would need an abominably warm summer and a lot of fucked air cons in the old folks homes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Proper leftie Scottish Labour Party is now needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Hopefully sturgeon realises the appetite for Indyref2 isn't as high as she thought. Sad to see salmond go as he's an excellent troll. Mays position is essentially untenable now, in my opinion, as she has zero credibility. She's caused this mess through rash decision making and proving she's an awful, awful leader in the previous few weeks. However, BJ as an alternative shows what kind of situation we're. It's like choosing between being in a helicopter crash or a plane crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 you have to be a fucking moron to support the conservatives in Scotland and that odious c**t Davidson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The chance for a proper socialist government destroyed by an obsession with independence. Anyone with a social conscience should be ashamed. Like a spoiled child this post represents a scream...'look at me', 'look at me'!!. That last snp victory at wm broke Scottish politics. Broke them beyond belief. Yes some snp supporters believed the hype and acted like dicks - but the actions of the Scottish Tory party (and to less of an extent Scottish labour) have created the current division in Scottish politics. The snp are going absolutely nowhere. Independence has been dented - but it's going nowhere. Only if Scotland had voted as one could they have influenced things. That simply doesn't happen (with the exception of 2015). Wee Ruth has unfortunately done very well here. She's played the independence card in a horrible way - but it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Somebody put up the 'It's shite being Scottish' clip from Trainspotting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, happysouth said: I hate living in the borders! I've a theory that the same forelock tugging towards the board we sometimes get on Queens threads, is alive and well in other local spheres too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_T_Y Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 SNP party need to do some soul searching. Disgusting seeing 13 tory seats in Scotland. Will be another election this year i would imagine. Best news is woke up to is top boy Gethins beating the lib dems by TWO votes in fife north east.Hopefully that really sticks in Willie Rennies craw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Seems likely we'll all be doing this again in several months time. If I were the Tories I'd get rid of May and put in Boris. He's seen as a buffoon, but I think he'd be a popular buffoon and could win them a majority.Labour should stick with Corbyn, back him, promote their better MPs for interviews and never let Diane Abbott back on the telly.SNP: looks like we're not winning an independence referendum anytime soon. Need to let all this Brexit stuff blow over first. 56 seats was unprecedented and 35 is still excellent. The press love to demonise the leader of the SNP. They did it with Salmond and they've done it will Wee Nic. She is still a good leader, but maybe she's gone a bit marmite like Salmond. Good to see Mairi Black keep her seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: I don't get it either. I can only surmise Scotland's left wing tendencies are overstated. The second most baffling outcome is UKIP voters largely going to Labour. You haven't been paying attention. I've told you all this before, usually to much derision The vast majority of UKIP votes were Labour voters who were not being listened to and who were losing out the most to the free movement/ unfettered influx of cheap unskilled labour and lack of investment. I've lived all over the UK and I can assure you Scotland is very conservative ( small c ) and worryingly insular by nature and not at all this left wing utopia the SNP would have you believe. It was all smoke and mirrors. England is now the progressive country and Scotland goes back to being the redneck backwater it always was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Can everyone please ignore McSpreader. Thank you. ETA: I haven't actually read his post, but its nap to be 100% dogshite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 May called the election on the basis of her majority not being big enough, of requiring a bigger personal mandate to prevent the opposition from derailing Brexit. She created the conditions for success against which she must ultimately be judged harshly, having voluntarily thrown away the first Tory majority since '92. The SNP are hurt by this result but not greviously so. They are still the biggest party, they still have a majority of seats. And if after all that Corbyn surge and kids coming put to vote, the Tories still rule, abetted by the DUP bigots, well, that's not a bad thing for Indy in the long run. It's a disaster for May. She called this, she had a terrible campaign and she lost her majority as a result. Her position is now untenable and she has to resign, and I suspect she will this afternoon.However a real disaster for the Conservative Parry would have been Labour being the largest party or *shudder* a Labour majority. Neither of them came close to happening.The biggest losers in the UK last night were the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Ronnie the Crofter increased his vote share by 0.8% with 499 votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, F_T_Y said: SNP party need to do some soul searching. Disgusting seeing 13 tory seats in Scotland. Will be another election this year i would imagine. Best news is woke up to is top boy Gethins beating the lib dems by TWO votes in fife north east.Hopefully that really sticks in Willie Rennies craw. It's not disgusting. It's the choice of the people , your people, The people of Scotland. And that really won't stick in his craw . He'll take that seat next time. SNP are a busted flush, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Ronnie the Crofter increased his vote share by 0.8% with 499 votes. How did Stick get on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpreader Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Bobby Skidmarks said: Can everyone please ignore McSpreader. Thank you. ETA: I haven't actually read his post, but its nap to be 100% dogshite. Yes you have.......F*ckin' Glorious! You know when they say 'Every Dog has It's Day' ? This is MY day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Bobby Skidmarks said: How did Stick get on? 177 votes. Not bad. Arsehole Jean Davis a distant third. The Lib Dem vote collapsed here and in Inverness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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