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June 8th General Election


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2 hours ago, NewBornBairn said:

Was that the one where he said half a million kids are in classes of over 36?

Which was shown to be a lie because the true figure is 42,000? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-39666686

Who's at fault here - Corbyn for getting it so wrong or the media for pointing it out?

I was only commenting on his proposed policies and Q&A, that's the part of his speech I got the chance to concentrate on.

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Emily Maitless tweeted the other night that there is still time for a coup against Corbyn.
Then you've got Laura Kuensberg.


ITV's political correspondent's response to Corbyn's bank holiday pledge was "why not just have a bank holiday every day?" What chance do Labour have with that level of immaturity from a prominent journalist?
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Corbynites probably do have some legitimate grievances about his coverage in the media, but they manage to ruin it all by making a song and dance about pretty much everything that is not 100% positive about him - regardless of substance. It just makes his supporters end up looking like paranoid lunatics, tbh. Which many of them are. 

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1 hour ago, DrewDon said:

Corbynites probably do have some legitimate grievances about his coverage in the media, but they manage to ruin it all by making a song and dance about pretty much everything that is not 100% positive about him - regardless of substance. It just makes his supporters end up looking like paranoid lunatics, tbh. Which many of them are. 

Dare I suggest this isn't dissimilar to some SNP supporters?

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Corbynites probably do have some legitimate grievances about his coverage in the media, but they manage to ruin it all by making a song and dance about pretty much everything that is not 100% positive about him - regardless of substance. It just makes his supporters end up looking like paranoid lunatics, tbh. Which many of them are. 


It's when there is a completely accurate summation of something Corbyn said and they go mental over it. Same people who retweet RT.
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24 minutes ago, The Master said:

Dare I suggest this isn't dissimilar to some SNP supporters?

It would not be entirely without foundation, no. Although this tendency does seem to have declined somewhat with the SNP's continued electoral success and the growth in their membership and voter base. With Corbynites, criticising the "MSM" for everything that goes wrong and utterly failing to be critical of their leader appears to be an almost universal tendency.

I would also say that it is not promoted from the top of the SNP in the same way as it is in the current Labour Party. Sturgeon and the people closest to her do not routinely bash the 'mainstream media' in the same way as Corbyn does, or continually attempt to use their unfavourable coverage as an excuse for her own shortcomings - although that is partly because she is a far superior politician than he is, so she generally has less need to do so. 

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It's incredibly sad, but true fact that Tony Blair would make Labour a credible force again. An utterly horrendous human being is what it'd take for the Tories to be challenged again. That says a lot about the UK right now.

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1 minute ago, git-intae-thum said:

Yeh. The media is not so much biased against the SNP. It is the whole issue of Scottish independence that the UK media greatly struggles with.

Blame the media, eh?  Any sane person struggles with you list-making Balkanisers.

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Today the election seems to be about who is 'tough' enough to press the button that will wipe everyone out*


*It probably won't wipe out the person pressing the button because they'll be hiding in s bunker somewhere.

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Today the election seems to be about who is 'tough' enough to press the button that will wipe everyone out*


*It probably won't wipe out the person pressing the button because they'll be hiding in s bunker somewhere.


Pretty standard deflection tactics from Tory PR people / the media who happily lap it up.

We have a major party candidate proposing a huge rise in the minimum wage, free school meals, prioritisation for single market access, the banning of privatisation of NHS services, a huge rise in social housing, and the nationalisation of an outrageously poor rail industry. Most people would agree with those policies, save perhaps the railways, if presented with them without knowing who said them.

Fear the imaginary nuclear threat though. Theresa would kill them all back! Tally ho.
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"Coalition of chaos" is this year's "take back control". 

On the basis that sticking to a single line worked last time - irrespective of the lies and utter shite which underpinned the phrase - the Tories are absolutely going to try to win this election on soundbites. May isn't interested in debate or opening herself to any scrutiny. She's going to use puppy dog media to deliver that single line and every snivelling tory c**t will be lined up to use it. 

Corbyn producing sensible policy statements will get chewed because this election is an extension of the 2016 referendum and the little Englanders along with their lapdogs elsewhere - including the snivelling c***s on here - will not risk someone who might not stick it to the French. And of course ethnic minority groups. 

 

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59 minutes ago, jmothecat said:

Surely you just say you would use it even if you probably wouldn't as a deterrent everyone knows you won't use is a pretty useless deterrent.

Same old arguments, really.

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