DBA Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Not good news for Natalie McGarry & Michelle Thomson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 minute ago, GeeJay said: Don't think this is great news for SNP - really can't see them making any gains. It blows away May's excuse for not having a referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Utter scenes I'll come in my pants if Mundell loses his seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If there was serious competition to the Tories in England, then the GE might be worthwhile. As stated above, we're fucked. It's depressing because she's played a blinder here. An improved Tory majority and increased/doubled-down support for Brexit are pretty much inevitable. It'll be very hard for those of us loony lefty Europhiles to make much of a case that our voice is being ignored. I've felt for a while the SNP should consider running candidates in England for this precise eventuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintax Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 It will be very difficult for the SNP to better the 56 won at the last election. May will use this to show that there is no appetite for another indy ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, GeeJay said: Don't think this is great news for SNP - really can't see them making any gains. Apart from May just double stamping their mandate for a referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 There's surely going to be some fightback on the date though? Surely the SNP especially will argue that it's too close to Council elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBA Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 It's going to be interesting to see how the SNP plays this. Obviously there's the 'no need for uncertainty' angle that May peddled out just weeks ago with regards to independence - well she's blown that out the water. With SLAB more or less an irrelevance, SNP shouldn't lose any seats unless the tactical voting becomes more organised and the unionists judge this as a mini-indy vote (which is likely). Hopefully we see Carmichael GTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Just now, Spain said: There's surely going to be some fightback on the date though? Surely the SNP especially will argue that it's too close to Council elections. May will argue that the "f**k off, Jock" principle applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, GeeJay said: Don't think this is great news for SNP - really can't see them making any gains. If the SNP had any ambition they'd field candidates in the North of England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philyerboots Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 There's surely going to be some fightback on the date though? Surely the SNP especially will argue that it's too close to Council elections. You wouldn't want to be seen to be opposing a general election in most cases. I don't think there's much to be gained by the SNP choosing that route on surface value at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 It's utterly pathetic that, thanks to Jeremy Corbyn there isn't a meaningful opposition party at Westminster. I know it will never happen but I would really like to see a coalition party formed from all those who voted against Brexit - if that was to involve the SNP so much the better - even if it meant taking Indyref2 off the table for maybe up to 5 years. The PLP destroyed labour long before Corbyn was in charge. The electorate could see right through the Tory tribute act. Had to PLP spent less time opposing the snp n Corbyn n more time opposite the tories their party would still have a modicum of credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 minute ago, DBA said: It's going to be interesting to see how the SNP plays this. Obviously there's the 'no need for uncertainty' angle that May peddled out just weeks ago with regards to independence - well she's blown that out the water. With SLAB more or less an irrelevance, SNP shouldn't lose any seats unless the tactical voting becomes more organised and the unionists judge this as a mini-indy vote (which is likely). Hopefully we see Carmichael GTF! SLAB are for running interference, while they effectively split the Unionist vote, the SNP should tidy up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Can see tories up here picking up cpl of rural seats from the hardcore unionist vote. Entirely possibly that slab n lib dems could be wiped out. If snp have 50 + seats that should be clear mandate proven again for indyref2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 SLAB are for running interference, while they effectively split the Unionist vote, the SNP should tidy up. Unless the "unionist" trend in Scotland continues to go toward the Conservatives and further entrenches May's self justification. I guess the Tory internal polling suggests that's likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Karl Fletcher said: Utter scenes I'll come in my pants if Mundell loses his seat me tae Edit: my breeks and no yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Oh god, another election.Going to assume that the Tories will make losses to the Lib Dems in posh London Remain voting seats, but they'll be planning on picking up far more Labour seats.The madness that is politics right now though probably means that Corbyn will win an overall majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The SNP won by huge margins last time Don't let the Mail/Express rhetoric fool you about support decreasing, they'll trouser it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, GeeJay said: Don't think this is great news for SNP - really can't see them making any gains. Yeah it's hard to see them winning any more than the 95% of seats they got the last time. 13 minutes ago, DBA said: Not good news for Natalie McGarry & Michelle Thomson! That in itself is good news. 6 minutes ago, tintax said: It will be very difficult for the SNP to better the 56 won at the last election. May will use this to show that there is no appetite for another indy ref. Yeah if the party advocating Independence only win 95% of the seats again that will show there's no appetite for Independence.* * This is sarcasm in case you didn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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