Stranraer vs Airdrie

[Diamonds are Forever]

First goal is just poor handling, I don't agree that's poor decision making, it's a ball that a goalie should easily be able to pluck out the air.

Second goal is pathetic all round. Poor kick obviously, but then pathetic attempt at a challenge by McIntosh, at the very least foul him. And then Mensing, pause the highlights just as the ball leaves the Stranraer player's foot and look at his body language. Cowering away rather than making a real attempt at a block. Just awful.

Looks a nice goal we scored, just as last week we've shown we can produce some quality, but means nothing when you defend like that.

[Roger Thornhill]

3 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

And then Mensing, pause the highlights just as the ball leaves the Stranraer player's foot and look at his body language. Cowering away rather than making a real attempt at a block. Just awful.

He shirked it all right.  The big feartie didn't want hit so he got out of the way. 

[The Chlamydia Kid]

Rohan Fumbleson

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[thomas 62]

3 hours ago, The Chlamydia Kid said:

Stranraer defence had so little to do, that they switched off for your goal.

[Tulloch Gorum]

On 4/15/2017 at 19:20, Cooper81 said:

I suggested John Martin to coach Rohan I got slaughtered as apparently Rohan was getting coached throughout the week and just because John Martin was gr8 keeper doesn't mean he would make a good goalkeeping coach. My argument what's to say he wouldn't ?

Rohan was coached by Goram and also Mark Brown I have been told so he has to take some responsibility and improve his performances.

As I said at the time, Martin did a brief stint coaching at Cowdenbeath when Mixu Paatelainen was manager.  That was over ten years ago, and to my knowledge (though I'm happy to be corrected on this) he's not done any coaching since.  Which suggests that he's either nor interested in it, not up to it, or both.  

It's no good assuming someone will or might be a good coach, so just punting them in there to see.  No.  If you want good coaching, you get a specialist coach. 

[Cooper81]

34 minutes ago, Tulloch Gorum said:

As I said at the time, Martin did a brief stint coaching at Cowdenbeath when Mixu Paatelainen was manager.  That was over ten years ago, and to my knowledge (though I'm happy to be corrected on this) he's not done any coaching since.  Which suggests that he's either nor interested in it, not up to it, or both.  

It's no good assuming someone will or might be a good coach, so just punting them in there to see.  No.  If you want good coaching, you get a specialist coach. 

That's the problem with a lot of sports coaching/ specialist having qualifications doesn't make you a good coach either. Martin loves Airdrie and unlike a lot of people in football isn't a yes man.

What makes you a specialist coach ?

[Airdrie♢Diamond]

These days most 2bit players see managerial work as a logical progression of the playing career, regardless of ability.

[waysider]

I think Ferguson would undoubtedly benefit from a good coach and also from a half decent defence. However, there is only so much a coach can do. Yesterday's goals were him dropping a relatively easy cross and making a pig's ear of a kick. No amount of coaching would help that.

[Airdrie76]

28 minutes ago, waysider said:

I think Ferguson would undoubtedly benefit from a good coach and also from a half decent defence. However, there is only so much a coach can do. Yesterday's goals were him dropping a relatively easy cross and making a pig's ear of a kick. No amount of coaching would help that.

His kicking could definitely be worked on - and improved as a result. 

[DestroyedByMadness]

24 minutes ago, Airdrie76 said:

His kicking could definitely be worked on - and improved as a result. 

You'd need to know what you needed to coach* which seems to be the Airdrie managent's achillies.

* his kicking under pressure

[Airdrie♢Diamond]

Whenever we pass back to Fumbleson you can feel the entire crowd clench their arse cheeks, same as whenever Boateng got the ball. Because you know that they are just flirting with disaster.

You just don't feel confident when Rohan gets any kind of possession.

[rough diamond]

I think Ferguson would undoubtedly benefit from a good coach

He had one in Andy Goram and seemed to be doing well, however the Chairman and possibly Dalziel decided in their wisdom to dispense with his services and it's been a downhill slope since.

[coach]

On 17/04/2017 at 12:00, rough diamond said:

 

He had one in Andy Goram and seemed to be doing well, however the Chairman and possibly Dalziel decided in their wisdom to dispense with his services and it's been a downhill slope since.

 

I coached both Rohan when he was registered at club level with the SYFA, and

also young Kinvig before he reached his current level at Airdrie, so I was able

to see good and negative aspects of their individual game. 

More and more senior clubs are going for an experienced back-up who can double

as goalkeeper/ gk coach, which also fits in with their budget. I learned that myself

after winning promotion one season. Helps towards a wage for an outfield player or

two.

To my knowledge, John Martin runs his own goalkeeping coaching set-up. One boy

from Larbert travels through to Glasgow to work with us in a group format, and

confirmed this.

Ideally, there should be a goalie coach working with young goalies like Ferguson 

and Kinvig at least twice a week, but we are very much an after thought. I did offer

to help EWB when he was involved - for nothing - having taken his goalies at Glasgow

City, but that fell on deaf ears. 

In Rohan's current situation, taking him out the firing line might have been helped, but

any possible replacement would also have suffered the same "lack of game preparation".

[thomas 62]

On 16/04/2017 at 12:54, Diamonds are Forever said:

First goal is just poor handling, I don't agree that's poor decision making, it's a ball that a goalie should easily be able to pluck out the air.

Second goal is pathetic all round. Poor kick obviously, but then pathetic attempt at a challenge by McIntosh, at the very least foul him. And then Mensing, pause the highlights just as the ball leaves the Stranraer player's foot and look at his body language. Cowering away rather than making a real attempt at a block. Just awful.

Looks a nice goal we scored, just as last week we've shown we can produce some quality, but means nothing when you defend like that.

Every goal a mistake ,our midfielder caught on the ball for your goal.

[Diamond Oracle]

Every goal a mistake ,our midfielder caught on the ball for your goal.

 

I've watched our goal back literally 10 times and still have no idea what you're talking about.

 

ETA: What a goal it was too.

[Cooper81]

5 hours ago, coach said:

I coached both Rohan when he was registered at club level with the SYFA, and

also young Kinvig before he reached his current level at Airdrie, so I was able

to see good and negative aspects of their individual game. 

More and more senior clubs are going for an experienced back-up who can double

as goalkeeper/ gk coach, which also fits in with their budget. I learned that myself

after winning promotion one season. Helps towards a wage for an outfield player or

two.

To my knowledge, John Martin runs his own goalkeeping coaching set-up. One boy

from Larbert travels through to Glasgow to work with us in a group format, and

confirmed this.

Ideally, there should be a goalie coach working with young goalies like Ferguson 

and Kinvig at least twice a week, but we are very much an after thought. I did offer

to help EWB when he was involved - for nothing - having taken his goalies at Glasgow

City, but that fell on deaf ears. 

In Rohan's current situation, taking him out the firing line might have been helped, but

any possible replacement would also have suffered the same "lack of game preparation".

Great post, also thank you for making us aware John Martin is still coaching. What would be your thought on Martin coaching Rohan ?

[coach]

13 hours ago, Cooper81 said:

Great post, also thank you for making us aware John Martin is still coaching. What would be your thought on Martin coaching Rohan ?

Thank you for the comment on my earlier post. Rohan could only benefit from working

with a gentleman like John Martin. He had "The Goalie" previously in his corner, but as I

said previously a lot of clubs are going down the road of a combined second keeper/goalie

coach, which I don't subscribe to. Goalkeepers are a different breed we all know that, and

when they concede poor goals/ go through bad spells of form/ suffer lack of confidence, 

in my experience it helps to go away with a specialist coach - even staying behind after 

training sessions to work on strengths and weaknesses. I have been in dressing rooms at

junior and senior football level where the keeper has made a mistake or two and been 

slaughtered at half-time, then went out for the second 45 minutes and made crucial saves

to help the team win the match. Reaction from said manager? - usually nothing, but that's

when a goalkeeping coach ( aka John Martin) really comes into his own.

[Airdrie76]

14 hours ago, Cooper81 said:

Great post, also thank you for making us aware John Martin is still coaching. What would be your thought on Martin coaching Rohan ?

You're obsessed with this. Out of interest, can the club afford a wage that would make it financially viable for John Martin to give up his current job (or work reduced hours - if that's acceptable) and commute through each day?

Edited to say is Mark Brown no longer coaching the keepers a few days a week? I'd read he was joining the police - wasn't sure if he had yet. 

[DestroyedByMadness]

33 minutes ago, Airdrie76 said:

You're obsessed with this. Out of interest, can the club afford a wage that would make it financially viable for John Martin to give up his current job (or work reduced hours - if that's acceptable) and commute through each day?

Edited to say is Mark Brown no longer coaching the keepers a few days a week? I'd read he was joining the police - wasn't sure if he had yet. 

We now have a low calibre guy who left Clyde recently.  

[DestroyedByMadness]

20 hours ago, coach said:

...also young Kinvig...and Kinvig 

... not sure Kinvig is still at Airdrie tbh.