Alan Stubbs Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 What if you support Independence, are pro-Europe and think the SNP are probably the best option at Holyrood? Pretty sure I've thought about each of these things extensively but I obviously need to vote against what I actually think to not be a sheep. Might go BNP next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: Difficult decision- who do you go with? Constituents? Country? Conscience? Or all 3? I know there was a study which "guessed" how constituencies voted and it showed something like 400+ "Leaves" and 200+ "Remains" so just follow your constituency. Might have been embarrassing for a few Mps from all parties but it would still have been triggered for good or bad. Mind you the idea of the "will of the people" being immutable in such a close result will leave "wounds". Don't think you can represent all three as "Country" trumps the other two?( Bridge not the Donald) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18May1991 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Alan Stubbs said: What if you support Independence, are pro-Europe and think the SNP are probably the best option at Holyrood? Stay away from ballot boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 8 hours ago, 18May1991 said: Not at all. I think I voted exactly the same, albeit without the European election when I don't think I bothered. I've also been voting for a lot longer. Wonder how many EU remain voters would change their views were Sturgeon/ the SNP to decree it so...... At the previous EEC referendum (1975), the official SNP position was "No" (i.e. Leave) I was too young to vote at the time, but would have voted "Yes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: At the previous EEC referendum (1975), the official SNP position was "No" (i.e. Leave) I was too young to vote at the time, but would have voted "Yes" In 1975 the votes were as follows England 68.70 31.30 N Ireland 52.10 47.90 Scotland 58.40 41.60 Wales 64.80 37.20 Only Shetland and the Western isles voted No in all of the UK. So if you had voted as the 'country" did you would have been the will of the British people. The SNP view then was that Westminster should not take Scotland into the EEC on the terms agreed by Heath, mainly I remember for much of the reasons that the 2016 Leave campaign gave. Fishing and Agriculture seemed important to them then? At least then there were terms to judge before voting . This time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Yes, but he's insecure and angry about the fact that most on here don't share his love for the Queen and Britannia. It is interesting that he suggested "Post Your Voting History to Show How Scottish You Are" though. Normally Britnats are at pains to claim that voting No didn't make them any less Scottish. "Um Scottish an British", etc. Clearly RedRob doesn't feel that way and doesn't think he's Scottish enough. Shame. You're a young man that's clear, you are the future of Scotland and that worries me deeply.I'll be retired in five years, and then you will have the responsibility, it passes to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSAFC Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 You're a young man that's clear, you are the future of Scotland and that worries me deeply.I'll be retired in five years, and then you will have the responsibility, it passes to you. Tory, queen loving ***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Tory, You're a young man that's clear, you are the future of Scotland and that worries me deeply. I'll be retired in five years, and then you will have the responsibility, it passes to you. queen loving ***. Aye, we have a company originally formed in 1958, that's still doing OK, and it's all down to being a Tory and a Royalist!? Everyone has a right to occasionally show their ignorance on here, but posters like you abuse the privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessies long lost ghost Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2011 Scottish Parliament Election - SNP / Green 2011 AV Referendum - No (I regret this one) 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum - Yes 2015 General Election - Did not vote as I was Living abroad in Malta on Erasmus Program (I would have voted TUSC if I was not abroad) 2016 Scottish Election - TUSC (Trade Union and Socialist Coalition) / Green 2016 EU Referendum - Leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSAFC Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Aye, we have a company originally formed in 1958, that's still doing OK, and it's all down to being a Tory and a Royalist!? Everyone has a right to occasionally show their ignorance on here, but posters like you abuse the privilege. Before you try to make me have a heads gone, try and be able to use the quote button properly *** scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 First eligible in 1997, but for a part of London that I didn't live in anymore, didn't give a toss about, and is such a Tory area that only three candidates bothered standing (and one of them probably lost his deposit). So, I didn't bother. SNP all the way since then. Yes to AV and Indy, Remain to the EU. In a moment of weakness, my mother admitted to voting for Thatcher once, and nobody in the family ever let her forget it. They're all dead now, but it's a tradition that I try to uphold to the best of my ability. We don't discuss it, but my father is almost certainly one of those Tories who crossed over to UKIP, although I have a dread feeling that his 'X' has ended up in the box next to 'BNP' or 'National Front' on occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Before you try to make me have a heads gone, try and be able to use the quote button properly *** scum. My apologies, have I replied correctly on this post? It's time to hit 'blanket fair', but can I ask first why you would call me *** scum? You don't even know me, your prejudice is clear is it not? ETA, it's up to the Mods I suppose, but P&B was a better forum a few years back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Everyone's a friend of Attila tonight, according to Jake Also "a danger to society". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSAFC Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Everyone's a friend of Attila tonight, according to Jake [emoji14] Also "a danger to society". Tbf Dave, torries, angry c***s, homophobes and people that fine beasty behaviour funny are absolute dangers to society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessies long lost ghost Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 On 17/02/2017 at 00:10, Bully Wee Villa said: Leave voters and thinking don't go hand in hand. There were some good reasons to vote leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 There were some good reasons to vote leave 17millions people clearly can't match bully Wee villa when it comes to intelligence and political thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 You're a young man that's clear, you are the future of Scotland and that worries me deeply. I'll be retired in five years, and then you will have the responsibility, it passes to you. ETA, it's up to the Mods I suppose, but P&B was a better forum a few years back! That's all very interesting, Rob. However it behoves me to point out that you were the one who, unprovoked, came on here and started complaining that the majority of posts were from people having the temerity to say they voted SNP or Yes (at least, one assumes that is what your "how Scottish you are" outburst referred to. Please let me know if I'm incorrect). No-one made you do that. It was your choice. And now, having provoked a reaction, you're crying about that too. The fact that you also immediately relate matters to YOUR company, speaks volumes too. There's more to the world than your experiences, and viewing politics through such a selfish prism isn't particularly edifying. Personally I'd be better off voting Tory if only for their tax attitude, but I'd prefer we had a fairer society. You're the past of Scotland, and that heartens me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 That's all very interesting, Rob. However it behoves me to point out that you were the one who, unprovoked, came on here and started complaining that the majority of posts were from people having the temerity to say they voted SNP or Yes (at least, one assumes that is what your "how Scottish you are" outburst referred to. Please let me know if I'm incorrect).No-one made you do that. It was your choice. And now, having provoked a reaction, you're crying about that too. The fact that you also immediately relate matters to YOUR company, speaks volumes too. There's more to the world than your experiences, and viewing politics through such a selfish prism isn't particularly edifying. Personally I'd be better off voting Tory if only for their tax attitude, but I'd prefer we had a fairer society. You're the past of Scotland, and that heartens me. I'm not sure about your point 'unprovoked', do you have to be 'provoked' before making an observation (certainly not a complaint). Hardly an outburst, such a sensitive wee soul for a poster who's contributions usually make a decent read. Great use of the word 'behove' btw, it's such a twee old fashioned word, I'm gonna be using that all day! Cheers Rab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: I'm not sure about your point 'unprovoked', do you have to be 'provoked' before making an observation (certainly not a complaint). Hardly an outburst, such a sensitive wee soul for a poster who's contributions usually make a decent read. Great use of the word 'behove' btw, it's such a twee old fashioned word, I'm gonna be using that all day! Cheers Rab Maybe I was exaggerating your "outburst" somewhat, fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipped Flake Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 voted SNP any time they had a candidate, including SNP/SNP when I had 2 choices. Voted YES for devolution and YES for Independence and REMAIN (reluctantly) in the EU referendum. Only party apart from SNP I have ever voted for was the Liberals, way back when the SNP didn't have a candidate in Leith and I didn't want to vote Tory or Labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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