Warburton Resigns

[Monkey Tennis]

12 minutes ago, Black and White Tragic said:

What you say at the end of your second last paragraph is key here. It all depends what Rangers put in writing and whether Warburton accepted it.

It must really come down to whether or not what happened on Monday can realistically be considered and supported to amount to a resignation.  

The delay of a whole working week in the club announcing it as a resignation, suggests to me that it certainly can't have been clear cut.

[WaffenThinMint]

46 minutes ago, CityDave said:

One of the first thing Dave King did when he took charge was to plug any leaks and make sure the information and news coming out of Ibrox is controlled as to not upset the loyal paying customers. He's raging about that.

Make you wonder what else is going on in the Big Hoose that we are unaware of.

Its a strange one, you would think Warburton would have wanted to stay since this was likely to be the biggest job as a football manager he would have been able to get. But then maybe he had his own reasons for wanting to jump ship to Forest rather than what we think we know. I'm sure all will be told soon enough. A obvious one could have been that Warburton and King did not see eye to eye on a number of issues.

 

But that's just it, he'd not merely taken Brentford to Tier 2 (the Championship) for the first time in 21 years, but the following season to the play off places for the Premiership - a club that had been out of the top tier since World War 2. In successive seasons, he'd turned one of the biggest bunches of league table fodder in England's national league into winners, & with prudence whilst flanked by neighbours (Fulham & QPR) throwing money around like confetti for debatable return.

It was inevitable that an offer was going to come from some Premiership side for his services - going to either of the Old Firm by contrast was always going to be seen in the rest of world's footballing eyes (never mind English) as a massive step down for far easier money. Let's not kid ourselves: the ugly sisters are not regarded as the big deal outside of Scotland they like to kid themselves they are, our league even less so.

My guess is he simply grew bored & has been looking for the first opportunity to escape back to England.

[CityDave]

Anyone remember this?

Rangers Record FC: Why can't Scottish teams replicate Mark Warburton's entertaining and dominant football?

OUR Light Blues blogger Jonathan McFarlane says that Aberdeen and Hearts' kick and rush football will never bring them success.

A lot has been written and said about pragmatism since Mark Warburton arrived at Ibrox vowing to send the fans home happy with an exciting brand of possession football.

It seems that in the depressing world of Scottish Football, where the expected third force can be dumped out of Europe by the fourth best team in Malta, wine has been turned into water so many times that the denizens of our game have started to prefer the taste.

While the hammer throwers from Tyncastle or the kick and rush (the polite will call it ‘direct’) brigade from Pittodrie might snatch the odd victory due to the bounce of a ball, the Warburton way sees Rangers dominate games and if you dominate the ball and chances, most of the time you win.

A simple formula but one that some seem reluctant to fully embrace.

If you look at the top teams in Europe, many of whom adopt a style that Rangers will try to emulate, you won’t see them abandoning their principles against squads that are of inferior quality.

When the great European teams have come to Glasgow over the years we haven’t seen them suddenly adopt a different approach in the face of a dogged, aggressive opponent.

No, they simply hold on to the ball, dominate and more often than not walked away with victory. Brain almost always beats brawn.

There’s also the entertainment factor.

It’s an alien concept up here I know, in the land where a football manager can say “if you want entertainment go to the cinema” and see it laughed off as a sign of a slightly affected personality.

We need to wake up to the fact the generations behind us, living in a connected, globalized society are more and more inclined to reject the weird blend of parochialism, tribalism and unchecked madness we call our national sport.

When you can watch the elegance of Guardiola’s City or Zidane’s Madrid why waste your time with an approximation that barely qualifies as the same sport?

I’m sure that when Brendan Rodgers eventually gets past the utter ignominy of his defeat to the Blue Imps or whatever they are named and calls time on the likes of Scott Brown , a player who could only have made his name in Scotland given his utter inability to master the basic elements in a midfield player’s armoury, then I’m sure he will try to adopt a similar philosophy to Warburton.

With a 45k a week wage and a budget that dwarfs his rivals I can’t imagine there will be tolerance for a team playing anything less than silky football.

In fairness, should he implement the style he successfully maintained in his early seasons at Liverpool, we will have two fantastic footballing teams that can hopefully set the tone for the years to come.

However the Warburton/Rodgers battle plays out there’s little evidence either of them will change.

Football has moved on, it’s us that’s been left behind.

That’s why our teams are getting beaten every year by clubs we haven’t heard of, in what we used to sneeringly describe as footballing backwaters.

As we drift ever deeper down this river of shame, adrift and rudderless, perhaps it’s worth looking at what these two men are doing and adapting to it rather than expecting them to adapt to our disastrous status quo.

 

Dear God!!

[Black and White Tragic]

Still doesn't have the memo...

[TheScarf]

The irony of all this of course, is that Rangers are the biggest diddies of all.

[blackislekillie]

[emoji38] Anyone remember this?

Rangers Record FC: Why can't Scottish teams replicate Mark Warburton's entertaining and dominant football?

OUR Light Blues blogger Jonathan McFarlane says that Aberdeen and Hearts' kick and rush football will never bring them success.

A lot has been written and said about pragmatism since Mark Warburton arrived at Ibrox vowing to send the fans home happy with an exciting brand of possession football.
It seems that in the depressing world of Scottish Football, where the expected third force can be dumped out of Europe by the fourth best team in Malta, wine has been turned into water so many times that the denizens of our game have started to prefer the taste.
While the hammer throwers from Tyncastle or the kick and rush (the polite will call it ‘direct’) brigade from Pittodrie might snatch the odd victory due to the bounce of a ball, the Warburton way sees Rangers dominate games and if you dominate the ball and chances, most of the time you win.
A simple formula but one that some seem reluctant to fully embrace.
If you look at the top teams in Europe, many of whom adopt a style that Rangers will try to emulate, you won’t see them abandoning their principles against squads that are of inferior quality.
When the great European teams have come to Glasgow over the years we haven’t seen them suddenly adopt a different approach in the face of a dogged, aggressive opponent.
No, they simply hold on to the ball, dominate and more often than not walked away with victory. Brain almost always beats brawn.
There’s also the entertainment factor.
It’s an alien concept up here I know, in the land where a football manager can say “if you want entertainment go to the cinema” and see it laughed off as a sign of a slightly affected personality.
We need to wake up to the fact the generations behind us, living in a connected, globalized society are more and more inclined to reject the weird blend of parochialism, tribalism and unchecked madness we call our national sport.
When you can watch the elegance of Guardiola’s City or Zidane’s Madrid why waste your time with an approximation that barely qualifies as the same sport?
I’m sure that when Brendan Rodgers eventually gets past the utter ignominy of his defeat to the Blue Imps or whatever they are named and calls time on the likes of Scott Brown , a player who could only have made his name in Scotland given his utter inability to master the basic elements in a midfield player’s armoury, then I’m sure he will try to adopt a similar philosophy to Warburton.
With a 45k a week wage and a budget that dwarfs his rivals I can’t imagine there will be tolerance for a team playing anything less than silky football.
In fairness, should he implement the style he successfully maintained in his early seasons at Liverpool, we will have two fantastic footballing teams that can hopefully set the tone for the years to come.
However the Warburton/Rodgers battle plays out there’s little evidence either of them will change.
Football has moved on, it’s us that’s been left behind.
That’s why our teams are getting beaten every year by clubs we haven’t heard of, in what we used to sneeringly describe as footballing backwaters.
As we drift ever deeper down this river of shame, adrift and rudderless, perhaps it’s worth looking at what these two men are doing and adapting to it rather than expecting them to adapt to our disastrous status quo.
 
Dear God!! [emoji38]

The delusion is pathological. Dearie, dearie me. [emoji1]

[naegoodinthedark]

Anyone remember this?

Rangers Record FC: Why can't Scottish teams replicate Mark Warburton's entertaining and dominant football?

OUR Light Blues blogger Jonathan McFarlane says that Aberdeen and Hearts' kick and rush football will never bring them success.

A lot has been written and said about pragmatism since Mark Warburton arrived at Ibrox vowing to send the fans home happy with an exciting brand of possession football.
It seems that in the depressing world of Scottish Football, where the expected third force can be dumped out of Europe by the fourth best team in Malta, wine has been turned into water so many times that the denizens of our game have started to prefer the taste.
While the hammer throwers from Tyncastle or the kick and rush (the polite will call it ‘direct’) brigade from Pittodrie might snatch the odd victory due to the bounce of a ball, the Warburton way sees Rangers dominate games and if you dominate the ball and chances, most of the time you win.
A simple formula but one that some seem reluctant to fully embrace.
If you look at the top teams in Europe, many of whom adopt a style that Rangers will try to emulate, you won’t see them abandoning their principles against squads that are of inferior quality.
When the great European teams have come to Glasgow over the years we haven’t seen them suddenly adopt a different approach in the face of a dogged, aggressive opponent.
No, they simply hold on to the ball, dominate and more often than not walked away with victory. Brain almost always beats brawn.
There’s also the entertainment factor.
It’s an alien concept up here I know, in the land where a football manager can say “if you want entertainment go to the cinema” and see it laughed off as a sign of a slightly affected personality.
We need to wake up to the fact the generations behind us, living in a connected, globalized society are more and more inclined to reject the weird blend of parochialism, tribalism and unchecked madness we call our national sport.
When you can watch the elegance of Guardiola’s City or Zidane’s Madrid why waste your time with an approximation that barely qualifies as the same sport?
I’m sure that when Brendan Rodgers eventually gets past the utter ignominy of his defeat to the Blue Imps or whatever they are named and calls time on the likes of Scott Brown , a player who could only have made his name in Scotland given his utter inability to master the basic elements in a midfield player’s armoury, then I’m sure he will try to adopt a similar philosophy to Warburton.
With a 45k a week wage and a budget that dwarfs his rivals I can’t imagine there will be tolerance for a team playing anything less than silky football.
In fairness, should he implement the style he successfully maintained in his early seasons at Liverpool, we will have two fantastic footballing teams that can hopefully set the tone for the years to come.
However the Warburton/Rodgers battle plays out there’s little evidence either of them will change.
Football has moved on, it’s us that’s been left behind.
That’s why our teams are getting beaten every year by clubs we haven’t heard of, in what we used to sneeringly describe as footballing backwaters.
As we drift ever deeper down this river of shame, adrift and rudderless, perhaps it’s worth looking at what these two men are doing and adapting to it rather than expecting them to adapt to our disastrous status quo.
 
Dear God!!

Parochialism, Tribalism and Unchecked Madness- what a great band name.

[WaffenThinMint]

9 minutes ago, naegoodinthedark said:

Parochialism, Tribalism and Unchecked Madness- what a great band name.

I thought it was Hawkwind's follow up to Quarks, Strangeness & Charm.

[ALJAGS76]

From what I've seen online it seems that many of the Rangers support have immediately just taken King's statement as gospel.  Why is there such a willingness to believe that Warburton and Weir have acted in such a deceitful manner?  None of us know the truth at the moment but there doesn't seem to be many Rangers fans willing to give Warbs the benefit of the doubt.

I've no doubt all will come out in time but it must be gutting for Warbiola to think that folk believe a glib and shameless liar™ over you!

[Milnzo]

5 minutes ago, ALJAGS76 said:

From what I've seen online it seems that many of the Rangers support have immediately just taken King's statement as gospel.  Why is there such a willingness to believe that Warburton and Weir have acted in such a deceitful manner?  None of us know the truth at the moment but there doesn't seem to be many Rangers fans willing to give Warbs the benefit of the doubt.

I've no doubt all will come out in time but it must be gutting for Warbiola to think that folk believe a glib and shameless liar™ over you!

Aye, seems weird that King is pointing the finger at Warbs* for things that he had the final say on AND , I assume, he(DK) gave final approval.

 

They must be the best customer base on the planet.

[bennett]

3 hours ago, CityDave said:

As I said above the story needs to be verified. The article in The Sun

Gers pay-off fight

Mark Warburton in £1million compensation battle with Rangers

Warbs is adamant he, David Weir and Frank McParland did NOTHING to merit the Ibrox board showing them the door

Exclusive

BY DEREK McGREGOR

12th February 2017, 12:01 am

 

MARK WARBURTON is adamant he, Davie Weir and Frank McParland did NOTHING to merit the Rangers board showing them the door on Friday night.

And now the powerful English League Managers Association — representing the trio — have been instructed to wage war with the Ibrox board for compensation totalling a stunning £1MILLION plus.

Former Brentford gaffer Warburton, 54, last night refused to comment further on a staggering 24 hours in his life following advice from the LMA.

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First he faced the media at the Auchenhowie training base ahead of the Scottish Cup tie against Morton.

Then later, while at his Glasgow apartment, he was caught completely cold by an EMAIL from club chiefs abruptly informing him they’d accepted his ‘resignation’.

It’s believed No2 Weir and head of recruitment McParland endured the same fate.

But a source close to the first Englishman in the Gers hotseat told SunSport: “Mark categorically denies that he ever offered his resignation.

“The same goes for Davie and Frank.”

Warburton — linked strongly with the Nottingham Forest gaffer’s job — spent yesterday in Glasgow but is expected to return to his London family home today.

Then the stage will be left clear for the LMA to square up to the Light Blues’ hierarchy, who are determined not to pay out a single penny to the departed trio.

SunSport has been told most of the Gers first team squad were quick to contact Warburton with messages of sympathy and support.

It’s also understood he was called by various members of behind-the-scenes club staff emotional over the exits of the managerial threesome.

Warburton spent 20 months in charge, winning the Championship and Petrofac Challenge Cup but losing the Scottish Cup Final to Hibs.

He beat former Rangers midfielder Stuart McCall to land the job.

This season Gers currently sit third in the Premiership, a whopping 27 points behind Celtic.

That is a spoof, right?

 

"The  powerful English League Managers Association"  dun dun dun.... 

 

 

[Monkey Tennis]

7 minutes ago, ALJAGS76 said:

From what I've seen online it seems that many of the Rangers support have immediately just taken King's statement as gospel.  Why is there such a willingness to believe that Warburton and Weir have acted in such a deceitful manner?  None of us know the truth at the moment but there doesn't seem to be many Rangers fans willing to give Warbs the benefit of the doubt.

I've no doubt all will come out in time but it must be gutting for Warbiola to think that folk believe a glib and shameless liar™ over you!

It's because for many of them, the King posturing ties in neatly with their own vision of the club.  

The idea that Warburton tried to be sneaky and has received a 'telt' has terrific appeal for lots of them.  The idea of only wanting people who want to be there, also speaks to the ludicrous sense of stature and entitlement we know so well.

Some Rangers fans are making sensible enough noises involving misgivings and even embarrassment.  A huge number of them can however be very readily seduced by references to the idea of betrayal and a lack of loyalty.

[CityDave]

2 minutes ago, bennett said:

That is a spoof, right?

 

"The  powerful English League Managers Association"  dun dun dun.... 

 

 

The LMA is a trade union. http://leaguemanagers.com/

[Monkey Tennis]

12 minutes ago, CityDave said:

The LMA is a trade union. http://leaguemanagers.com/

You can't expect Bennett to know stuff like that.

He's famously clueless on such matters.

[CityDave]

1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said:

It's because for many of them, the King posturing ties in neatly with their own vision of the club.  

The idea that Warburton tried to be sneaky and has received a 'telt' has terrific appeal for lots of them.  The idea of only wanting people who want to be there, also speaks to the ludicrous sense of stature and entitlement we know so well.

Some Rangers fans are making sensible enough noises involving misgivings and even embarrassment.  A huge number of them can however be very readily seduced by references to the idea of betrayal and a lack of loyalty.

It sums it all up if the Rangers fans decide to side with a known liar and fraud against a man that has been so far come across as honest and upfront while building a decent Rangers team that has been a huge improvement on what they had before. It takes time to build a successful squad and it will take a few years to build a team capable of challenging Celtic for the title on a regular basis, especially this Rodgers side. Warburton isn't perfect no manager is, but the unrealistic goals set at the start of the season is all what this is about and then no one expected that Celtic could in February be still unbeaten and 27 points clear.

What has given Rangers fans the reason to trust without question the leadership at their club?

Is this Dave King 'dodging bullets' yet again, something he seems quite an expert at.

 

 

[Acastus]

And now we go live to Dave King 

 

[ALJAGS76]

17 minutes ago, CityDave said:

It sums it all up if the Rangers fans decide to side with a known liar and fraud against a man that has been so far come across as honest and upfront while building a decent Rangers team that has been a huge improvement on what they had before. It takes time to build a successful squad and it will take a few years to build a team capable of challenging Celtic for the title on a regular basis, especially this Rodgers side. Warburton isn't perfect no manager is, but the unrealistic goals set at the start of the season is all what this is about and then no one expected that Celtic could in February be still unbeaten and 27 points clear.

What has given Rangers fans the reason to trust without question the leadership at their club?

Is this Dave King 'dodging bullets' yet again, something he seems quite an expert at.

 

 

That's what I was getting at. I dont know Warburton but he comes across as quite a decent guy whereas King is a googly eyed fraudster.  Also Warbs is obviously quite an intelligent man, why would you categorically say "I have not resigned"  if you know Rangers have your resignation letter or a witnessed, minuted meeting of you saying "I hereby resign"? It just doesn't make sense, nor does doing a press conference after your resignation has been tendered and accepted.  

Baffling.

[Jordo1872]

35 minutes ago, bennett said:

That is a spoof, right?

 

"The  powerful English League Managers Association"  dun dun dun.... 

 

 

Do you realise the LMA are a recognised trade union? Which means there backing gives Warburton and Co significant support, particularly in relation to access to legal support with financial contribution?

To put it a way you may find easier to understand; for every £1 Rangers 2012 were to spend on legal fees Warburton et al could spend five.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

4 hours ago, CityDave said:

Mark Warburton and David Weir instructed to sue Rangers for £1m - report

The departed trio have apparently been told to go in hard.

 

[CityDave]

13 minutes ago, ALJAGS76 said:

That's what I was getting at. I dont know Warburton but he comes across as quite a decent guy whereas King is a googly eyed fraudster.  Also Warbs is obviously quite an intelligent man, why would you categorically say "I have not resigned"  if you know Rangers have your resignation letter or a witnessed, minuted meeting of you saying "I hereby resign"? It just doesn't make sense, nor does doing a press conference after your resignation has been tendered and accepted.  

Baffling.

A chance to save around £700,000 in a settlement package was an opportunity not to miss.