HibeeJibee Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: And Ayr weren't in the First Division in 1966/67 Yes they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 4 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Yes they were. You're quite right, for some reason I thought it was the following season. It's even more embarrassing as I saw the Dons beat them at Pittodrie (revenge for 1963/64 - not really!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Wee Gers deliver the shock of ages Berwick Rangers – who had not beaten a Scottish League side in the cup for thirteen years until this month – have pulled off the greatest giant-killing in history. They beat the mighty Rangers at a packed Shielfield Park today. It is the first time the Ibrox club have lost in the First Round for thirty years, and the first time in history the Cup-Winners’ Cup Quarter-Finalists have lost to a lower-league club in national competition. The Scotsman described it as the “most ludicrous, weirdest, most astonishing result ever returned in Scottish football”; the Herald said “never in the history of Scottish football was there a result to match this one”. Rangers fans burnt their scarves and tammies in despair and protest, others threw them from the Tweed bridges. Thousands of jubilant Berwick fans invaded the pitch on the full-time whistle. Many felt justice in the result after Rangers attempts to expel Berwick and four other clubs from the league three years ago. News of the score elicited astonishment at grounds across Britain. A goal from Sammy Reid on 32 minutes was the difference between the sides, with Berwick goalkeeper and player-manager Jock Wallace putting in a defiant performance. With this defeat the holders – who substituted Willie Johnston for Davie Wilson with a broken leg midway through the second half – exited the cup they have won thirty times previously, five in the last seven years. There was also a surprise in Motherwell where Second Division East Fife won by a goal. Five-without-reply Aberdeen and Dundee United, with a brace from Finn Dossing, pulled-off impressive away wins. Caledonian of the Highland League showed pluck but went down to Hamilton. Elgin v Ayr was postponed due to a flooded pitch and will be tried again on Wednesday, as will replays required at Cowdenbeath and Dunfermline. Scottish Cup - First RoundBerwick Rangers 1-0 Rangers (13,283) Caledonian 1-3 Hamilton Academical (5,500) Celtic 4-0 Arbroath (31,300) Dundee 0-5 Aberdeen (23,000) Elgin City P-P Ayr United Falkirk 3-1 Alloa Athletic (5,000) Heart of Midlothian 0-3 Dundee United (17,139) Hibernian 2-0 Brechin City (8,184) Kilmarnock 2-2 Dunfermline Athletic (12,847) Morton 0-1 Clyde (14,000) Motherwell 0-1 East Fife (5,029) Partick Thistle 3-0 Dumbarton (7,000) Queen’s Park 3-2 Raith Rovers (3,186) Stirling Albion 1-2 Airdrieonians (5,417) St Johnstone 4-0 Queen of the South (5,000) St Mirren 1-1 Cowdenbeath (4,071) Second Division Albion Rovers 1-0 Third Lanark (506) Montrose 1-1 Clydebank (474) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Highlights: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Nearly 13,000 at Kilmarnock v Dunfermline and 14,000 at Morton v Clyde... bloody hell ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 23,000 at Dens for a standard pumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Flybhoy said: Nearly 13,000 at Kilmarnock v Dunfermline and 14,000 at Morton v Clyde... bloody hell ! Remember the cup was a big event in those days... Morton's league average was <4,000... plus Killie, Dunfermline and Clyde were all flying high in the top tier (indeed the first pair in Europe). Leaving aside Caledonian v Hamilton the 14 ties drew over 150,000 whereas those 14 clubs league averages were under 110,000. Today the effect would probably be the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ayr of concern for Honest Men Elgin City are the last non-leaguers standing and hope to prolong that status a round further when they host top division strugglers Ayr United tomorrow. Eagerly awaited at the home of the Highland League champions, the Ayrshire club make the long journey after Saturday’s attempt was washed out. Two replays go ahead at Cowdenbeath and Dunfermline. European football also resumes as Bologna host West Bromwich Albion in the Third Round of the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup. In news, West Germany have re-established diplomatic relations with Romania and re-opened talks with Yugoslavia. Scottish Cup - First RoundElgin City v Ayr United (7:30) Scottish Cup - First Round replays Cowdenbeath v St Mirren (2:45) Dunfermline Athletic v Kilmarnock (7:30) Inter-Cities Fairs Cup - Third Round, First Leg Bologna v West Bromwich Albion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 12:59, HibeeJibee said: Most agree that 1967 - or rather the first half of it - was the greatest period in Scottish football history. Not even. 1961 was better. Scotland in 1963 was better still. You're clearly pandering to the grey and green dross, buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 "first time in history the Cup-Winners’ Cup Quarter-Finalists have lost to a lower-league club in [insert here] national competition." That may be sloppy journalism and the words "the" or "a" might have been omitted. If it's "a" then it's wrong, Cowdenbeath beat them in the 1949-50 League Cup at Ibrox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: If it's "a" then it's wrong, Cowdenbeath beat them in the 1949-50 League Cup at Ibrox. Your schoolboy error is to assume this is a serious thread. It isn't. It's a Hibs' fan sooking the Sellick boaby and, probably, P&B's most tragic thread ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairn Terrier Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 4 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Not even. 1961 was better. Scotland in 1963 was better still. You're clearly pandering to the grey and green dross, buddy. Aye, getting beat 9-3 by England might have warmed the cockles of your heart but didn't do much for the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Your schoolboy error is to assume this is a serious thread. It isn't. It's a Hibs' fan sooking the Sellick boaby and, probably, P&B's most tragic thread ever. What's tragic about it? A Scottish team in the last 4 of all 3 European competitions. First time the 2 big euro finals had been contested by two teams from the same city. First British team and non Latin team to win the European Cup. Beating England after they had won the World Cup. Does any other season even come close in Scottish football history?One additional bonus was that I believe it was the only time rangers have played in a European final and their fans have not destroyed the place. You should be happy about that at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 12 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: "first time in history the Cup-Winners’ Cup Quarter-Finalists have lost to a lower-league club in [insert here] national competition." That may be sloppy journalism and the words "the" or "a" might have been omitted. If it's "a" then it's wrong, Cowdenbeath beat them in the 1949-50 League Cup at Ibrox. It's reported like that in most newspapers at the time. In several cases they actually say the first Old Firm club to lose to a lower-league club and without the 'national competition' bit. I suspect they were excluding 3 instances of League Cup QFs v Cowdenbeath, Dunfermline and Ayr where Rangers lost a leg but still won the tie on aggregate. To be strictly correct I suppose they should have said "been eliminated by" instead of "lost to". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The Monkees are number one with I'm A Believer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye the Gnu Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 19 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Not even. 1961 was better. Scotland in 1963 was better still. You're clearly pandering to the grey and green dross, buddy. What are you on! Apart from 10 million fans witnessing something in Lisbon, Killie reached a European semi final and your lot went one better. That will NEVER be repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 18 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Your schoolboy error is to assume this is a serious thread. It isn't. It's a Hibs' fan sooking the Sellick boaby and, probably, P&B's most tragic thread ever. Every bit as guilty as Flybhoy on the last page. Seriously, what the Hell has happened to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: Seriously, what the Hell has happened to you? Gallons of the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsjfc Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 It may have been HJ who originally shared it (and sorry if it's where he was going with this thread) but there is a terrific article from 1967 decrying the state of the game, something must be done etc that showed somethings genuinely don't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Aye, I can't remember where that is - I'll find it at some point I'm sure. Gordon Smith once quoted from it while he was SFA CEO ! Other great anecdote is that in the middle of May - after beating England at Wembley; with Celtic and Rangers readying themselves for their European and Cup-Winners' Cup finals; with Kilmarnock about to play their Fairs Cup SFs; after various other representative successes we'll hear in the months to come; and so on - the national team lost its traditional May friendly at home to the Soviet Union the WC Semi-Finalists and Euros runners-up. Tartan Army booed the team from the field ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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