Queenserse Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Sorry but I just find this site boring over the past few months. There is a concentration on single team themes and most of the space is filled with big pictures and then there are all the home movies. I liked it better when e used to discuss common (eos) league nonsense. But then, I'm an old fart but just say in' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrie_1 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 That's cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I *knew* you'd all miss me (blows kiss) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 8 hours ago, tamthebam said: I *knew* you'd all miss me (blows kiss) This forum all changed when City started winning games and you stopped being a frothy moothed Spartans hating mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 22/01/2017 at 22:27, Queenserse said: I liked it better when e used to discuss common (eos) league nonsense. But then, I'm an old fart but just say in' Diddy league thread for this shite. Not as lively without the Gretna posters. Where are they? In fact where are our fans on match day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Discussion probably hasn't been helped by the fact that the last three league seasons have essentially been processions from start to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheslope Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Bingo must go, there you go that should liven things up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 hours ago, uptheslope said: Bingo must go, there you go that should liven things up No really id change my fishing rod if I was you. On 24/01/2017 at 09:22, surely not! said: Discussion probably hasn't been helped by the fact that the last three league seasons have essentially been processions from start to finish. This 100 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Just wait til the end of Feb/March when all the talk about possible expansions and Junior clubs joining and all that pish starts up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoo Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Not even got Ferguson parks winter shutdown to salivate over..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 or more leagues of 10 wi play offs. I don't care who'd make up numbers whether junior or eos or other to make up 2 or more leagues. The SPFL doesn't have 16 team leagues so why should LL or even HFL have them. Would certainly mean less deed rubber games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 57 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: 2 or more leagues of 10 wi play offs. I don't care who'd make up numbers whether junior or eos or other to make up 2 or more leagues. The SPFL doesn't have 16 team leagues so why should LL or even HFL have them. Would certainly mean less deed rubber games. The HL has always been a single division since it began. 10 teams leagues are repetitive and boring (SPFL should have taught you that), what you need is stronger teams in the LL to make it more competitve, with the cannon fodder dropping down to a level that matches their ability....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 33 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: The HL has always been a single division since it began. 10 teams leagues are repetitive and boring (SPFL should have taught you that), what you need is stronger teams in the LL to make it more competitve, with the cannon fodder dropping down to a level that matches their ability....... Yes I know that of the HFL. I would hardly say SPFL 2 is boring, gimme a winner and bottom place for the play offs at this present time. That's definitely not boring...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, newcastle broon said: Yes I know that of the HFL. I would hardly say SPFL 2 is boring, gimme a winner and bottom place for the play offs at this present time. That's definitely not boring...... Polls seems to indicate that most regular fans of SPFL clubs would welcome larger leagues to relieve the monotony of playing each other 4 times a season. One of the problems with the LL is of course only 1 play-off spot at the top, so it's too easy for one strong team to run away with it. If you had an automatic promotion spot with the next 2/3 clubs playing off with HL and second bottom SPFL, then you'd see a little more excitement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Burnie_man said: Polls seems to indicate that most regular fans of SPFL clubs would welcome larger leagues to relieve the monotony of playing each other 4 times a season. One of the problems with the LL is of course only 1 play-off spot at the top, so it's too easy for one strong team to run away with it. If you had an automatic promotion spot with the next 2/3 clubs playing off with HL and second bottom SPFL, then you'd see a little more excitement. Good points though I'm sure years ago that's why SPFL went to 10 teams in leagues to prevent meaningless games but like you say 4 times a season gets boring. I suppose there's nae real answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Burnie_man said: Polls seems to indicate that most regular fans of SPFL clubs would welcome larger leagues to relieve the monotony of playing each other 4 times a season. One of the problems with the LL is of course only 1 play-off spot at the top, so it's too easy for one strong team to run away with it. If you had an automatic promotion spot with the next 2/3 clubs playing off with HL and second bottom SPFL, then you'd see a little more excitement. Little steps. If EK go up and Berwick or Cowdenbeath come down the LL will have a bit more leverage. People have to understand that movement between leagues is negotiable and is voted on at AGMs. Mind you, I don't understand your point about the play-off spot making it easy, surely in any league a strong team will run away with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Little steps. If EK go up and Berwick or Cowdenbeath come down the LL will have a bit more leverage. People have to understand that movement between leagues is negotiable and is voted on at AGMs. Mind you, I don't understand your point about the play-off spot making it easy, surely in any league a strong team will run away with it? What I meant was run away with it as far as promotion is concerned given only one has a chance to go up, and in turn kills interest at the top end, which is the point being made on this thread.I agree though, if a couple more SPFL teams slip down then the issue of how many go up will no doubt be reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 What I meant was run away with it as far as promotion is concerned given only one has a chance to go up, and in turn kills interest at the top end, which is the point being made on this thread.I agree though, if a couple more SPFL teams slip down then the issue of how many go up will no doubt be reviewed. It won't, they'll no longer be SPFL clubs, but LL clubs and/or HL clubs. They'll have no vote on the matter if there was a motion for change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, surely not! said: It won't, they'll no longer be SPFL clubs, but LL clubs and/or HL clubs. They'll have no vote on the matter if there was a motion for change Yes it will, same as happened in England with the conference. The league below becomes more attractive or less of a disaster to drop into, gains credibility and gradually things open up. Until The Shire came down the LL had little credibility hence all the playoff hurdles the SPFL could impose. Although I take your point that clubs usually vote in their own interest - but this often means clubs with no danger of relegation taking a more liberal view. Looking back to 1994 it's obvious ICT and Ross County gained votes from the big clubs who either weren't bothered about the cost of travelling there, or possibly thought they would never have to. If it was up to the wee diddy clubs we would have got Gala and Gretna instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I think the weightiest factor would be clubs starting to feel that going down would find it increasingly unlikely to get back up again... Having the trapdoor only open a crack is fine - until you go down. Until then you only have to avoid finishing bottom - and even if you finish bottom you only have to win 1 playoff. Lose that playoff and it's serious stuff though - suddenly you're on the other side and having to win a league then 2 rounds of playoffs. If there are lots of quality clubs already there it's hard to even manage the first stage of that. Other aspect is that clubs which have come-up from non-league football may be less aghast at ideas of returning to it - and retain more affinity with their ex-compatriots. I've heard it said that some SFL people/clubs felt the pyramid was a bit of a dodge: it would just see a couple of struggling clubs like East Stirlingshire / Montrose and a couple of non-league clubs like Spartans / Cove playing musical chairs every few years. If so there may well now be a rude awakening. In 2 years the playoff has already seen Montrose escape via 2 goals in the last 10 minutes, and 'Shire go down and not look favourites to bounce straight back (as things stand). Five years ago who would have predicted the rise of Brora, Formartine and Turriff... the emergence of Stirling Uni, EK and Cumbernauld... even the ascent of Edinburgh City. In 2008 the 4 unsuccessful clubs who applied to join SFL3 were Cove, Spartans, Preston and Edinburgh City. Two are up there in HL / LL; another is battling relegation to EOSL; and the fourth has reached SPFL2. Meanwhile a whole collection of clubs have improved on-field and off-field, and half-a-dozen come along who weren't even seniors at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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