RandomGuy. Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Dubford don said: It's quite sad that no matter who shows the matches Scottish footballs main selling point is the 4 bigotfests between to absolute showers of shite Whats sad about it? The two biggest supported clubs facing off is the main selling point of almost every national league on the planet, mainly because they've got the biggest support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 15 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Whats sad about it? The two biggest supported clubs facing off is the main selling point of almost every national league on the planet, mainly because they've got the biggest support. The fact it's a bigotfest and its the OF and their fans are all c**ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 According to the Daily Record we have the worst TV Deal in Europe. That should really be a sackable offence for whoever was responsible. There's absolutely no excuse for it. I am no fan of pie in the sky nonsense but this constant over the top negativity about Scottish football is surely to blame for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scottish-football-paid-a-pittance-10124880?service=responsive&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral Link to the article. It should probably go in the "Terrible Journalism" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Ross. said: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scottish-football-paid-a-pittance-10124880?service=responsive&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral Link to the article. It should probably go in the "Terrible Journalism" thread. Cheers, I couldn't get it to cut and paste for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Malcolm Malcolm said: According to the Daily Record we have the worst TV Deal in Europe. That should really be a sackable offence for whoever was responsible. There's absolutely no excuse for it. I am no fan of pie in the sky nonsense but this constant over the top negativity about Scottish football is surely to blame for this. Peter lawwell, i believe. It was much lauded at the time as a giruy sevco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 8 hours ago, bennett said: Peter lawwell, i believe. It was much lauded at the time as a giruy sevco. Well he did a shit job if it was him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 It's a bit of an unfair comparison, since some of those deals are for every single league game - I think that's the case for Norway, for example. I don't think that would go down well in Scotland, where folk have a meltdown about 1 or 2 games being moved for TV, let alone 38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 How do the likes of Norway, Sweden, Denmark etc get more money when they have 4 less bigotfests a season that us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 6 hours ago, craigkillie said: It's a bit of an unfair comparison, since some of those deals are for every single league game - I think that's the case for Norway, for example. I don't think that would go down well in Scotland, where folk have a meltdown about 1 or 2 games being moved for TV, let alone 38. 4 hours ago, sjc said: How do the likes of Norway, Sweden, Denmark etc get more money when they have 4 less bigotfests a season that us? Craig touches on some of the reasons. You also have to consider things like relative currency strength and what is covered by the deal. The Record article mentions Portugal, and the deal that Benfica and Sporting Lisbon have signed which nets them 400m euros. It neglects to mention that the 400m euros is over a 10 year period and also includes significant sponsorship and advertising rights. It's not simply that the sides receive 400m for TV coverage. The articles that the record have put out yesterday and today are utterly atrocious. They are completely devoid of anything beyond the most superficial aspects of the subject. They completely lack in context, analysis and any kind of objectivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Most - if not all - teams have their own online TV service. Why not group together every club's online service into a nationwide football channel, and televise every game? We could call it..SPL TV...for example. Then we could centralise all the online subscriptions, and distribute the money fairly. On top of that, we could sell the TV rights for a limited number of big games to BT (who seem to put more effort in than Sky). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Illgresi said: Most - if not all - teams have their own online TV service. Why not group together every club's online service into a nationwide football channel, and televise every game? We could call it..SPL TV...for example. Then we could centralise all the online subscriptions, and distribute the money fairly. On top of that, we could sell the TV rights for a limited number of big games to BT (who seem to put more effort in than Sky). That's also something else that the Record appears to have missed. The Swiss TV deal allows SRF to show the games online and via their own PPV channel. Have the record included the income from things like the Celtic/Hearts/Aberdeen online channels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Ross. said: That's also something else that the Record appears to have missed. The Swiss TV deal allows SRF to show the games online and via their own PPV channel. Have the record included the income from things like the Celtic/Hearts/Aberdeen online channels? You answered your own question there pal: "Have the Record...."....no. Daily Record...seek and ye shall find no journalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 It's not like the Daily Record to lack context and objectivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, TheScarf said: It's not like the Daily Record to lack context and objectivity. Nor journalistic integrity, or a basic grasp of the English language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 It's all well and good sitting here slagging off tabloid journalism, but how does our TV deal actually compare to the rest of Europe? Is the gist of their article completely wrong? The Daily Record might be the source of a lot of what is wrong in our game but if they can see, like most people here can, that our game is sold short commercially by the likes of Neil Doncaster, then surely that is a positive development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Keith Jackson should stick to colouring in the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I like that Sweden has 2 divisions of 16 teams playing each other twice from March to November. Their average attendances are lower than ours too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 18 minutes ago, sjc said: I like that Sweden has 2 divisions of 16 teams playing each other twice from March to November. They're average attendances are lower than ours too. But they don't have a potential minimum of 4 moneyspinners per season to look forward to. The only way Scottish football will ever thrive, is if Celtic f**k off to England, and Sevco die the undignified death we all desperately hope for. I did a back of envelope calculation two seasons ago, about splitting the gate for all games 50/50, and Hearts lost out slightly, but every other team bar timothy made a gain. Still, our chairman voted against changing the money structure. It's enough to make a Dons fan feel slightly less superior tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Illgresi said: But they don't have a potential minimum of 4 moneyspinners per season to look forward to. The only way Scottish football will ever thrive, is if Celtic f**k off to England, and Sevco die the undignified death we all desperately hope for. I did a back of envelope calculation two seasons ago, about splitting the gate for all games 50/50, and Hearts lost out slightly, but every other team bar timothy made a gain. Still, our chairman voted against changing the money structure. It's enough to make a Dons fan feel slightly less superior tbh. Or we could hope that the New "old" Firm arms race results in a double KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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