Pull My Strings Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 18:42, Rovers1992/1993 said: Toshney at RB? 0-17 We had five consecutive clean sheets with Toshney at right back, a run which ended in the first game that he missed due to suspension. I'd add .. 'ya fud', but it seems rather redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: We had five consecutive clean sheets with Toshney at right back, a run which ended in the first game that he missed due to suspension. I'd add .. 'ya fud', but it seems rather redundant. So, for clarity, you think Toshney is a good right back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: So, for clarity, you think Toshney is a good right back? I think he's fine. Others are entitled to have misgivings. Also fine. The suggestion that he's an awful right back whose appearance in that position will inevitably lead to instability in the back four and the concession of goals is demonstrably horseshit. I'd say he's marginally better than Dillon and, probably, marginally worse than VDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chateau Lafite Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Gents, apologies for intrusion on your thread but the big league has gone on holiday for some reason and it's more interesting reading about football that is being played or about to be played. Toshney played for most of the season when we were promoted in extremis and relegated in rapidity without time to prepare when Rangers expired. During that time he was mostly at centre half, and as a young raw lad in that position he looked pretty good. With a reasonable level of ball control he was good in the air as well, but I don't see him as a full back. He doesn't have the pace for it as was admirably demonstrated by the flying Hibees wingers on Friday evening. McKinnon must know this having seen taken him to Raith. Can only conclude that he thinks that he's the least worst of the boys at Tannadice in that position. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Chateau Lafite said: Gents, apologies for intrusion on your thread but the big league has gone on holiday for some reason and it's more interesting reading about football that is being played or about to be played. Toshney played for most of the season when we were promoted in extremis and relegated in rapidity without time to prepare when Rangers expired. During that time he was mostly at centre half, and as a young raw lad in that position he looked pretty good. With a reasonable level of ball control he was good in the air as well, but I don't see him as a full back. He doesn't have the pace for it as was admirably demonstrated by the flying Hibees wingers on Friday evening. McKinnon must know this having seen taken him to Raith. Can only conclude that he thinks that he's the least worst of the boys at Tannadice in that position. Cheers. Despite the last couple of results we have a pretty decent central defence partnersip in The Edge and Durnan. That said I would be happy to see Toshney played in that position in the event of suspension/injury/drop of form in one of these two. Toshney has also played in defensive midfield and was OK. He's rank rotten at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Toshney played right back on occasion for Raith, though obviously far more often at centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I would expect that the away success at Paisley will prompt the continuation of the 4-5-1 formation at Tannadice. I suspect that we will attempt to sweat it out for a 0-0 or try and rely on a rare breakaway or a set piece to sneak a goal against the head.Personally speaking not the way that I want us to play but I guess this is where we are heading. Dobbie is wasted as lone striker and while Lyle will be fit again the three central midfielders will need to be accommodated so 4-5-1 looks favourite. Sincerely hope that we don't set up negatively like this with Danny almost playing as an auxiliary left back but I think we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffelz Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Pull My Strings said: We had five consecutive clean sheets with Toshney at right back, a run which ended in the first game that he missed due to suspension. I'd add .. 'ya fud', but it seems rather redundant. Could be wrong like, but did he not come on for VDS after half time against Morton? And then gave away a penalty in his first start against Hibs, sent off next game against Raith and then back to back horrific games against Dumbarton and Hibs? He is comical at right bsck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffelz Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I am indeed correct. So other than Hibs, our terrible performances have coincided with him coming back in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's certainly an interesting one now that Naysmith has the option to put his own stamp on the team. Will he bring Lyle back in or stick with the three central midfielders. Ideally he would find a system that allows him to do both. I think all three midfielders have different attributes that compliment each other. As do Dobbie and Lyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Realistically to accommodate both aspects he can't really play both Danny and Dom Thomas. To be fair if Danny is deployed in a deep wide left role it is probably best if he is left in reserve as that is not making best use of him. Whatever is decided just hope we don't get trapped in our own half for entire match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 14 hours ago, palmy_cammy said: It's certainly an interesting one now that Naysmith has the option to put his own stamp on the team. Will he bring Lyle back in or stick with the three central midfielders. Ideally he would find a system that allows him to do both. I think all three midfielders have different attributes that compliment each other. As do Dobbie and Lyle. I'd be very surprised if he doesnt start the same team as last week against Utd. We had some discussions about formations last week, but I dont see how he can fit 3 midfielders and Lyle and Dobbie into the team. I think its more likely Jacobs will drop out if Naysmith wants to play 2 strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomCat Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'd prefer 5 in midfield, stay in the game, then Lyle brought on second half. Dykes being back sooner than expected is a bonus too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'd be very surprised if he doesnt start the same team as last week against Utd. We had some discussions about formations last week, but I dont see how he can fit 3 midfielders and Lyle and Dobbie into the team. I think its more likely Jacobs will drop out if Naysmith wants to play 2 strikers. I agree on all counts.Away to second in the league is exactly the type of game you need Jacobs. Games we need to be taking to our opponents he will probably be sacrificed.Anyway it's been a while since we've had a "one up front is the root of all evil" discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGdavieT Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Many Doonhamers going to Tannadice? We had a good support there last time! Will be my first game in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 hours ago, palmy_cammy said: I agree on all counts. Away to second in the league is exactly the type of game you need Jacobs. Games we need to be taking to our opponents he will probably be sacrificed. Anyway it's been a while since we've had a "one up front is the root of all evil" discussion. Indeed. Simple game 4-4-fucking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I am indeed correct. So other than Hibs, our terrible performances have coincided with him coming back in the team. Correct, he is murder and ive repeatedly said as much since we signed him. A little part of me dies every time i read a teamsheet and his names on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Twinkle said: Correct, he is murder and ive repeatedly said as much since we signed him. A little part of me dies every time i read a teamsheet and his names on it Your twinkle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Thats a big part [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Twinkle said: Thats a big part 2 minutes ago, Twinkle said: Thats a big part 2 minutes ago, Twinkle said: Thats a big part 2 minutes ago, Twinkle said: Thats a big part Must be. It took 4 posts to fit it in when you first responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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