We can’t go on pretending that poverty is solved by getting a job

[Baxter Parp]

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/poverty-jobs-johnes/

Let's have a chat about poverty.

[kirkyblue2]

Basic income for all.

[DublinMagyar]

Less disparity between salaries. A bit less for the wealthy, a bit more for the lowest paid. And build a shed load of houses/rent control to make housing affordable to the masses and stop this stupid race to get on the property ladder

[Granny Danger]

The proposition that poverty is primarily a result of laziness/unwillingness to work predates the #posttruth era but will gain greater momentum as we discard facts and evidence.

Discussion on wage disparity, and suggestions about legislation to minimise it is a red herring IMO.  Increasing the minimum wage and a progressive income tax policy is the way to address income issues.

The way to address the housing issue is far more complicated. The fact that so many folk in recent years have seen their increase personal wealth linked directly to house price inflation makes it an incredibly difficult nut to crack.

 

[Dindeleux]

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/poverty-jobs-johnes/
Let's have a chat about poverty.

Get a better job.

[Peppino Impastato]

The net worth of the top,10% has doubled since 2010 whereas the bottom 10% it's halved.  This is what happens when tories are in power.

 

The UK is funked now anyway,  report out today predicting permanently lower growth because of brexit and up to two thirds of current job under threat from technology.  We're funked,  it's over,  the baby boomers funked the world then selfishly denied anyone else the chance to, fix it.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Just say "fucked"

PLEASE

[welshbairn]

Wish we were funked. Let Clinton take over, and I'm talkin George.

[Peppino Impastato]

It's predictive text that does it.  My phone now recognises dickbreath. 

[sureiknow]

As was pointed out in the comments Directors pay went up 15% not 37% as shown.

Still a Hugh jump in one year.

[hehawhehaw]

8 hours ago, Baxter Parp said:

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/poverty-jobs-johnes/

Let's have a chat about poverty.

You don't know about poverty laddie. 

Four well-dressed men sitting together at a vacation resort.

Michael Palin: Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.

Graham Chapman: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier wine, ay Gessiah?

Terry Gilliam: You're right there Obediah.

Eric Idle: Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?

MP: Aye. In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.

GC: A cup ' COLD tea.

EI: Without milk or sugar.

TG: OR tea!

MP: In a filthy, cracked cup.

EI: We never used to have a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.

GC: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.

TG: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.

MP: Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

EI: 'E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.

GC: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!

TG: You were lucky to have a ROOM! *We* used to have to live in a corridor!

MP: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.

EI: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.

GC: We were evicted from *our* hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake!

TG: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.

MP: Cardboard box?

TG: Aye.

MP: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

GC: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!

TG: Well we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.

EI: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."

MP: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.

ALL: Nope, nope..

[welshbairn]

Graves? You were lucky, midden we got.

[hehawhehaw]

11 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Graves? You were lucky, midden we got.

By eck lad I would have died for a midden

[Cerberus]

"I work 20 hours a week and I can't afford my 40 fags a day, a 60 inch TV, Sky and munchy boxes for my 4 weans."

Fucking government.

[Gaz FFC]

The way so many poor people living in utter shiteholes and are deemed to be in poverty still voted better together makes me believe these folk don't want to change.

 

[EdgarusQPFC]

Getting a job isnt the big 100% solution to all lifes problems like some people pretend it is. But it certainly does help. As was said earlier, the real problem is that the rich continue to get even richer at the expense of the poor and if they are ever at risk of losing money its us who will have to pick up the slack. Never gonna change, so why fucking bother

[banana]

Define poverty.

[Baxter Parp]

7 hours ago, banana said:

Define poverty.

Absolute or relative?

[hehawhehaw]

16 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said:

Absolute or relative?

 

What about the isolated; those that have no future; those who lack willpower or love; have no experience or are incompetent; the disadvantaged,isolated or even unwell; those in chronic poverty or transitional poverty. And finally yourself, ignorant and self loathing.

Get a life ya tosser.

 

 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

 
What about the isolated; those that have no future; those who lack willpower or love; have no experience or are incompetent; the disadvantaged,isolated or even unwell; those in chronic poverty or transitional poverty. And finally yourself, ignorant and self loathing.
Get a life ya tosser.
 
 

What the f**k is wrong with you?