ayrmad Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 25 minutes ago, FTOF said: I have no problem with that. I'm sick and tired of players who genuinely attempt to play good football, being cynically taken out of the game by players seeking to boot a player up in the air after they've just been skinned. At no point did Adams boot the boy up in the air, personally I think Platini's attempts at eradicating the really bad tackles from the game that he was subjected to is in danger of going too far the other way. We all want to see good football with plenty of mazy runs but I certainly don't want to see it being virtually impossible to stop a mazy run without drawing a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 37 minutes ago, FTOF said: I agree that referees do have to get tougher when punishing this type of tackle and become collectively more consistent. It still doesn't detract from the fact that under the new ruling, which many fans are obviously ignorant of, the tackle was a red card offence. What is this directive and where and when was it introduced, it's all very well people claiming ignorance but how are fans supposed to know what new directives we've got if they aren't well publicised or easily accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 25 minutes ago, ayrmad said: At no point did Adams boot the boy up in the air, personally I think Platini's attempts at eradicating the really bad tackles from the game that he was subjected to is in danger of going too far the other way. We all want to see good football with plenty of mazy runs but I certainly don't want to see it being virtually impossible to stop a mazy run without drawing a card. There is. You put in a good clean legitimate tackle, where the defensive abilities of the tackler surpass the dribbling abilities of the attacking player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young buck Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 St mirren boy dived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, sergie's no1 fan said: Fuxakes I get it was a bigger point for Ayr than it was for us but he must realise every team in the league have pumped us apart from Ayr and they have had what 4? attempts at it. It is good deflection tactics and the Ayr fans enjoyed it but they should be questioning why they keep blowing leads against us when everyone else has done it with relative ease. Ian McCall winding up your fans doesn't distract us from realising that we are awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Bobby_F said: There is. You put in a good clean legitimate tackle, where the defensive abilities of the tackler surpass the dribbling abilities of the attacking player. Yes and you mistime the tackle at all and it will draw a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 minute ago, itzdrk said: Ian McCall winding up your fans doesn't distract us from realising that we are awful. Don't agree with us being awful overall this season but I do agree that we know we're running a tightrope so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Don't agree with us being awful overall this season but I do agree that we know we're running a tightrope so far this season. People often accept having a bit of solidity as being ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 People often accept having a bit of solidity as being ok. We dont carry any threat to teams. Can quite easily see 10th place happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, itzdrk said: We dont carry any threat to teams. Can quite easily see 10th place happening. As you know from my posts elsewhere I totally agree with you Derek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Yes and you mistime the tackle at all and it will draw a card. Depends. Make an honest attempt to do that, but fail due to the attacker being too good then it's a foul and, depending on the circumstances a yellow. Making no attempt to make a legitimate tackle then (IMO) it should be a yellow and, depending on the circumstances, a red. The Cairney tackle mentioned earlier actually could have been a legitimate attempt to get the ball, but he was too late - and it's rightly a yellow card because of the speed both were going at. I don't think any Ayr fan is saying Adams tackle was an honest attempt to get the ball, and given the speed and location of both players, that makes it a red. I think it's telling that McCall (who you would expect to know the rules better than us fans) wasn't complaining about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Foul in the build up to both goals (but that's fine if it's both) Us just after kick off from the equaliser Nisbet not being offside Definately a red card btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: I cannot believe anyone condoning that tackle yesterday, that's a challenge that has to be eradicated from the game, it's the challenge of a clugger with absolutely no attempt being made to win the ball. It's reckless, cynical and dangerous so why is it not a red card ? Dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Eddie Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Ayr fans on here need to get over it. Clear red. And know one can know what would have happened if Adams had avoided a red, we might even have lost due to him scoring an OG in injury time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC 1910 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Ayr fans on here need to get over it. Clear red. And know one can know what would have happened if Adams had avoided a red, we might even have lost due to him scoring an OG in injury time! yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Watched the highlights. Not sure if it was a red. Ayr are prone to some real nasty stuff at times but that just looked lazy and clumsy rather than evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUNIORFAN Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Just watched highlights. Corner / bye kick was a clear corner as it hit Balatoni last and you can see him turning to run in to box to defend corner. Red was stonewaller . St Mirren should have been at least 2 up first half, Shankland had a mare , as did Devlin who got a roasting the whole game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum-ayr Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 32 minutes ago, JUNIORFAN said: Just watched highlights. Corner / bye kick was a clear corner as it hit Balatoni last and you can see him turning to run in to box to defend corner. Red was stonewaller . St Mirren should have been at least 2 up first half, Shankland had a mare , as did Devlin who got a roasting the whole game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Anyone see the red card in the Ross County v Aberdeen game just shown on Sportscene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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