Contra Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 18 hours ago, RussellAnderson said: Ciftci is a classic example of Celtic signing a good player and letting him rot in the reserves. Mental. Ciftci is the classic example of diddy teams definition of good and our definition of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 30 minutes ago, Contra said: Ciftci is the classic example of diddy teams definition of good and our definition of good. Is that why St Johnstone fans don't rate him? I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Bhoy Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I'm not going to argue with you again over fanbase. I'll say this, as an Aberdonian Aberdeen fan, I think I know more than you about the mindset of the average punter on the street in Aberdeen. If Celtic really wanted a competitive league they'd vote for even distribution of European cash, tv money and gate receipts. Obviously that's not going to happen. Why would a turkey vote for the festive period? C'mon the TV deal isn't the big a deal in Scottish football. You have finished 2nd for 2yrs running as well as having a cup run and the prize money that goes with that. By the same token, look at how much money you have gained compared to The Rangers and yet the gap isn't that big between the sides despite them having 4yrs without this apparent lucrative TV money that you reckon makes a big difference. This is with them not having a good merchandise deal either and self-destructing as a club. So again, the prime example is the fans making a big difference.Again though, you back up my point that you don't want to actually do something about it yourself, you want to be rewarded just for existing as opposed to trying to better your situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Davie Bhoy said: C'mon the TV deal isn't the big a deal in Scottish football. You have finished 2nd for 2yrs running as well as having a cup run and the prize money that goes with that. By the same token, look at how much money you have gained compared to The Rangers and yet the gap isn't that big between the sides despite them having 4yrs without this apparent lucrative TV money that you reckon makes a big difference. This is with them not having a good merchandise deal either and self-destructing as a club. So again, the prime example is the fans making a big difference. Again though, you back up my point that you don't want to actually do something about it yourself, you want to be rewarded just for existing as opposed to trying to better your situation. You can't magic people out of thin air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Bhoy Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 You can't magic people out of thin air. Of course you can't & I'm not expecting a magic wand to get waved but I think the fans could do more to entice people to come along but more importantly the club should be doing a lot more.I'm reading Stewart Milne saying how your new stadium will be vital to your progress but I can't see why given the capacity is pretty much as you are just now, especially when they can't fill their current stadium despite being in their best period in these past 2-3 seasons than they have for the previous 19/20 years.. Sure it might help a bit especially with the new training complex but I can't imagine it pushing Aberdeen on a great deal but I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Asap Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 3 hours ago, RussellAnderson said: You can't magic people out of thin air. You do for cup finals. Well for one you did anyway. Still canny believe you lot couldn't sell out your allocation for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebonce Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 GMS was rumoured among fans to be joining County on loan in Jan 16. That obviously didn't happen. He was heavily linked to a loan move through the summer and, I think, Scott Burns had him being very close to signing. That didn't happen either. I wonder if the deal will be resurrected. Maybe he sees his pal Stuart Armstrong getting into the first team and doing well, but hopefully he will be more concerned about getting regular football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 You do for cup finals. Well for one you did anyway. Still canny believe you lot couldn't sell out your allocation for Sunday. Another one who fails to grasp the concept of fans of a club who go every week and fans that only make an effort for 'big'games. This is not unique to Aberdeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Sinclair and Dembele will be sold to English clubs in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contra Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 13 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: Sinclair and Dembele will be sold to English clubs in January. Keep telling yourself that mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejoeharper Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Asap said: You do for cup finals. We all do to be fair. Celtic usually have a full or near full house when Johnny Foreigner arrives but don't normally. I'm not sure that I understand the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Asap Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Bishop Briggs said: Sinclair and Dembele will be sold to English clubs in January. No they won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Bhoy Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 We all do to be fair. Celtic usually have a full or near full house when Johnny Foreigner arrives but don't normally. I'm not sure that I understand the difference. In fairness, our crowds are usually always pretty good around the 45,000-55,000 mark unless the fans feel like they are getting the urine extracted by the boards penny pinching like they did when they appointed Deila & got in several loan players to bloat the squad, in which case a lot stay away but many of them purchased their ST's & still didn't turn up. Don't get me wrong, they do my head in too. Noticed a right few idiots sitting about me these days who seem to have 'returned' to the fold. Wish they'd f**k off again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Asap Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: Another one who fails to grasp the concept of fans of a club who go every week and fans that only make an effort for 'big'games. This is not unique to Aberdeen. I do get it. But you're basically saying Aberdeen don't have the fans to compete with Celtic. You clearly do when you think you'll win. Maybe be if you actually tried to challenge us fans would go to games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I do get it. But you're basically saying Aberdeen don't have the fans to compete with Celtic. You clearly do when you think you'll win. Maybe be if you actually tried to challenge us fans would go to games Ahh if only we tried.Right, what's dereks number I need to pass this on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 If all the fans who were in Seville turned up every week and Celtic had a 100k stadium (if they showed any fucking ambition) they could compete with the best in Europe and not continue to embarrass Scotland with their failure in the Champions League.Do you hear how idiotic that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'd like to recommend "Soccernomics" by Simon Kuper to the Celtic posters. It has some really good explanations about crowd numbers and fans etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 If all the fans who were in Seville turned up every week and Celtic had a 100k stadium (if they showed any fucking ambition) they could compete with the best in Europe and not continue to embarrass Scotland with their failure in the Champions League.Do you hear how idiotic that is. Maybe if they tried in Europe it would happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Bhoy Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 If all the fans who were in Seville turned up every week and Celtic had a 100k stadium (if they showed any fucking ambition) they could compete with the best in Europe and not continue to embarrass Scotland with their failure in the Champions League.Do you hear how idiotic that is. Seville was a moment when thousands of Celtic fans from across the globe went for a European final. The amount of Celtic fans I met from America, Scandinavia etc was unreal. Just as I wouldn't expect Aberdeen fans who live that far away to be at Pittodrie every week, I don't expect Celtic fans to do it either. I get they will make the effort for a big game.However, lets not pretend that your cup final fans were all flying in from around the globe. Maybe in their 10's or low hundreds but not in their thousands. Most were Scottish based fans. I'd expect any Scottish based Celtic fan who acts like a die-hard in the big games, to make the effort for all home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Davie Bhoy said: Seville was a moment when thousands of Celtic fans from across the globe went for a European final. The amount of Celtic fans I met from America, Scandinavia etc was unreal. Just as I wouldn't expect Aberdeen fans who live that far away to be at Pittodrie every week, I don't expect Celtic fans to do it either. I get they will make the effort for a big game. However, lets not pretend that your cup final fans were all flying in from around the globe. Maybe in their 10's or low hundreds but not in their thousands. Most were Scottish based fans. I'd expect any Scottish based Celtic fan who acts like a die-hard in the big games, to make the effort for all home games. Yes but they don't, do they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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