HibeeJibee Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 hours ago, thisal said: Yeah your right. They should be divided up geographically so that there is the same number of coaches for the duke of Atholls grouse moor as there is for Glasgow. That would be a fair retort: were it not for the fact that parts of the country like Stirling, Perth, Fife, Tayside & Dundee (with a Performance School granted) and the north - Inverness included - were populous, and not remote, yet unrepresented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Doesn't seem right that the elite clubs are getting more funding, surely it should go to the clubs further down the pecking order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank22 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Kneetrembler said: There should be something in Inverness the Highlands. It's not all about the numbers. This is our national sport. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 15 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: That would be a fair retort: were it not for the fact that parts of the country like Stirling, Perth, Fife, Tayside & Dundee (with a Performance School granted) and the north - Inverness included - were populous, and not remote, yet unrepresented. I feel like a broken record Perth , Dundee, The Highlands Inverness and Dingwall are included. How far to you think Stirling is from Falkirk. The current youth leagues there already play their games against teams Falkirk and further away. The Highlands have 2 teams involved. So that means a region with less than 5% of the population has 12% of the places. i'd say that's over represented. The disappointments are Fife and Dumfries and Galloway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggie52 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, thisal said: I feel like a broken record Perth , Dundee, The Highlands Inverness and Dingwall are included. How far to you think Stirling is from Falkirk. The current youth leagues there already play their games against teams Falkirk and further away. The Highlands have 2 teams involved. So that means a region with less than 5% of the population has 12% of the places. i'd say that's over represented. The disappointments are Fife and Dumfries and Galloway. Listing geographic areas like this doesn’t really help. You ask how far is Stirling from Falkirk, how far is Central Fife from Edinburgh or Dundee, Perth or Falkirk? The answer is not as far as Caithness or Lochaber from Dingwall, not forgetting Orkney, Shetland, the Western Isles and large parts of Argyll. Until somebody throws in a lot of money we have to position facilities around what is already here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 56 minutes ago, Staggie52 said: Listing geographic areas like this doesn’t really help. You ask how far is Stirling from Falkirk, how far is Central Fife from Edinburgh or Dundee, Perth or Falkirk? The answer is not as far as Caithness or Lochaber from Dingwall, not forgetting Orkney, Shetland, the Western Isles and large parts of Argyll. Until somebody throws in a lot of money we have to position facilities around what is already here. No I answered someone that said "Stirling, Perth, Fife, Tayside & Dundee (with a Performance School granted) and the north - Inverness included - were populous, and not remote, yet unrepresented." by pointing out they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 You're including the 2nd level of clubs. My point is that in selecting and locating 7 performance schools + 8 elite clubs, the top levels of the new "less is more" youth development... populous swathes of the nation go unrepresented. Talented youth from Inverness have no access to either. Talented youth in Tayside & Dundee have access to school in Dundee, but will have to travel to Aberdeen/Edinburgh for an elite club. Talented youth from places like Fife, Stirling and Perth have no access to either unless they travel to Falkirk/Dundee/Edinburgh (for school) or Aberdeen/Edinburgh (for club) - which some of their parents will consider a no-go on welfare grounds, especially in the younger age-groups, or for simple reasons of transport and finance. Clearly you can't expect a performance school and elite club in every area but to have such concentration in some areas (e.g. Glasgow & Lanarkshire) but absolutely nothing in others is surely concerning. Isn't the risk that, in focusing on a smaller "elite" group of youths but seeing the schools and clubs selected, we're also mainly focusing on youths from Lanarkshire and the cities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Which successful small nation is this Project Brave based upon? Portugal? Croatia? Even Iceland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 50 minutes ago, EdTheDuck said: Which successful small nation is this Project Brave based upon? Portugal? Croatia? Even Iceland? The Grand Duchy of Fenwick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: The Grand Duchy of Fenwick. Even that would be better than an original from the depths of SFA central, which I fear is where this folly originated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, EdTheDuck said: Even that would be better than an original from the depths of SFA central, which I fear is where this folly originated It was put together when Brian McClair was performance director with a working group of the following: Chris McCart (Celtic), Craig Mulholland (Rangers), Steven Dunn (Aberdeen), Craig Levein (Hearts), Roy MacGregor (Ross County), George Craig (Hibernian), Les Gray (Hamilton), Iain Blair (SPFL), Jim Chapman (Annan), Creag Robertson (Falkirk, now Rangers), Derek Hunter (SFA), Campbell Money (SFA). http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sfa-spark-civil-war-stewart-9291119 If there's criticism about the project then it's probably fair to credit all those involved in putting it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 11 hours ago, capt_oats said: It was put together when Brian McClair was performance director with a working group of the following: Chris McCart (Celtic), Craig Mulholland (Rangers), Steven Dunn (Aberdeen), Craig Levein (Hearts), Roy MacGregor (Ross County), George Craig (Hibernian), Les Gray (Hamilton), Iain Blair (SPFL), Jim Chapman (Annan), Creag Robertson (Falkirk, now Rangers), Derek Hunter (SFA), Campbell Money (SFA). http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sfa-spark-civil-war-stewart-9291119 If there's criticism about the project then it's probably fair to credit all those involved in putting it together. Does that group include reps from 7 of the 8 clubs selected for elite status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Yes. The working group decided they were the best and should get all the money, the SFA have agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Does that group include reps from 7 of the 8 clubs selected for elite status? (It's actually 6. There were no reps from either Motherwell or Killie on the working group) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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