SpoonTon Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I wish people would stop trying to rewrite history by defending Vogts. In his first campaign we lost to Lithuania and drew the Faroe Islands. In his second campaign he was sacked after drawing at home against Slovenia, losing at home against Norway, and drawing at Moldova. He capped a stunning array of mediocre players while somehow actually managing to overlook many of the players who would go onto be such an important part of the Smith/McLeish era. You could credit him with bringing in Faddy and Fletcher, except he actually resisted calls to bring them in for quite a while. Faddy has already moved to Everton by the time that Vogts really trusted him. He was a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I wish people would stop trying to rewrite history by defending Vogts. In his first campaign we lost to Lithuania and drew the Faroe Islands. In his second campaign he was sacked after drawing at home against Slovenia, losing at home against Norway, and drawing at Moldova. He capped a stunning array of mediocre players while somehow actually managing to overlook many of the players who would go onto be such an important part of the Smith/McLeish era. You could credit him with bringing in Faddy and Fletcher, except he actually resisted calls to bring them in for quite a while. Faddy has already moved to Everton by the time that Vogts really trusted him. He was a disaster. Entirely this. The reason we made the play offs was that we were drawn in a spectacularly bad group. Germany were transitional / dire, Iceland were still poor Lithuania were worse than they are now plus the candlestick makers n binmen from faroes. In addition to losing to Lithuania away n drawing with faroes we were grim awful at home v Lithuania n barely scraped the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Having been stung by GS and his seemingly stubborn dislike for some players, and love of others, maybe a management team might work. No-one will come from EPL to manage Scotland I wouldn't think, although moyes might not have a choice if Sunderland do the wrong thing and fk him off after half a season. What does Walter Smith do these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Having been stung by GS and his seemingly stubborn dislike for some players, and love of others, maybe a management team might work. No-one will come from EPL to manage Scotland I wouldn't think, although moyes might not have a choice if Sunderland do the wrong thing and fk him off after half a season. What does Walter Smith do these days? He's too busy turning his back on his country . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 McInnes is a good shout for me, that's if he wanted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Barbrady Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 39 minutes ago, pandarilla said: He's too busy turning his back on his country . Whit? Fucking shoosh, silly boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 McInnes is a good shout for me, that's if he wanted it. Get fucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Chick Young touting Jim Duffy.....again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Whit? Fucking shoosh, silly boy. Betrayal at a time when we needed him to stay. His priorities were clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Get fucked That's not very nice now is it? I would have thought it was a compliment to your Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Barbrady Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Betrayal at a time when we needed him to stay. His priorities were clear. Not a word of thanks then, for the only two recent managers to leave and go on to further success......after being excellent for Scotland?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 That's not very nice now is it? I would have thought it was a compliment to your Manager. Nothing personal.You might be delightful but kindly when it comes to Derek and the Scotland job....Get fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 6 hours ago, Chimter-boys said: Derek McInnes wouldn't be a bad shout, manages to get his Aberdeen side performing well every season, has won a trophy and has got AFC to another final and he also had some good Europa League results: 3-0 against Rijeka, 3-0 against Ventspils, 2-1 against FC Groningen and 1-1 against NK Maribor. Knows how to get the best out of a limited team a la SJFC and his Aberdeen side. He's also had some shameful European defeats. And winning one trophy is hardly a great achievement considering there has been no Rangers for the entirety of the time he has been at Aberdeen, and when you look at the numerous other diddy clubs that have won a trophy during the last few years. Winning a trophy doesn't meanbyou are a good manager, just look at Alan Stubbs. He has done okay at Aberdeen, but he has done absolutely nothing to merit being given the Scotland job. Everything about him screams Craig Levein mark II to me. Initial relative success in Scotland, gets a move down south to a financially stricken club and fails, gets a move back up to Scotland where he's in his comfort zone and proceeds to do okay, then gets touted for the Scotland job.. Sounds familier.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearwithme Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 19 hours ago, theauldyin said: lars lagerback get him in I would agree, except I think he's retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coooombe Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 What's Manuel Pellegrini doing these days? I'd throw all the extortionate ticket money at him to get him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig McCulloch Burley Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 This want job new manager of Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 What's Manuel Pellegrini doing these days? I'd throw all the extortionate ticket money at him to get him in. Coaching in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Roy Hodgson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Brilliant Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Bielsa is the dream but that's all it'll ever be. Home games would be unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Bielsa is the dream but that's all it'll ever be. Home games would be unbelievable. What would be the barrier do you reckon? Purely money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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